A discussion at work on Brexit

[Workingman]

If a leap in the dark is what it takes, I'll be jumping.

Me too Meds.

"Anything but the EU", goes the chant.

No wonder nobody will answer my question about the type of Brexit we will get. Nobody knows, and nobody cares.

Well I care. If Brexit does happen the UK will be in the strange position of being governed by parties that wanted to stay in the EU. Members of the EEA, EFTA etcetera will know that, so will the EU and the RoW when they get to negotiate with the UK. We will have many years of pro European politicians and parties governing a largely anti European population. What tensions could that toxic mix bring to the fore?

Leaps into the dark can be exciting, mediocre or downright dangerous. Brexit will not be exciting so the best we can hope for is mediocre.

[Suff]

It is, however, a very Darwinian process. Might take a few governments but any MP seen to be damaging the UK interests would have to have a damned good reason for doing it or face the price of losing at the polls.

I never said it would be easy or even that it would be plain sailing. What I said was that it is necessary to retain our society.

Of course if British society is disposable then we can stay. But that’s not the feel I get. The feel I get is that people are more scared about the “possibility” of immediate short term strife to build an independent UK than they are the absolute certainty that the UK will lose it’s identity, culture and position in the world; some indeterminate time in the future which might or might not be in their lifetimes….

Dearly bought immediate comfort in my opinion… But that is never being said.

I know that many MP’s are talking about the benefits of Brexit. But the point is this. Live is comfortable enough in the EU, we don’t need Brexit to make our lives easier. We need to balance the price of that comfort against the short term (in historical timelines), impact of leaving to make our own way in the world.

For me, that price is way, way, too high. So I’m not focusing on the “benefits”, nobody is going to win on that platform because life is not harsh enough to make the risk worth it. I’m focusing on the cost of our comfort. I see the cost of the comfort to be exponentially higher than the pain of Brexit.

That is my take and I see no other reason to leave. This is not an economic decision. This is a sovereignty decision. Do people want to be British or do they want to be EU-ropean.

It really is as simple as that.