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Dangerous words.

Postby Workingman » 28 Oct 2016, 17:52

Tony Bliar is now urging Remain voters to "prise apart the alliance which gave us Brexit" because "we're the insurgents now". He wants a new referendum based on the negotiations. "The issue is not whether we ignore the will of the people, but whether, as information becomes available, and facts take the place of claims, the 'will' of the people shifts.

Oh no, Blair, the 'will' of the people has already been made. You are just stirring up trouble because it is what you do best - dived and conquer.

I was wondering why the media gives this criminal the oxygen of publicity, but deep down I know. It did not want Brexit and now it has it, it does not know how to deal with it. Tough. It is what was voted for and that is the bottom line.

The 'will' of the people has been made, get on with it.
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Re: Dangerous words.

Postby AliasAggers » 28 Oct 2016, 18:29

Workingman wrote:
The 'will' of the people has been made, get on with it.


I quite agree.

I'm surprised that the man has the impudence to express his opinions. As you say.
he should be behind bars.
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Re: Dangerous words.

Postby TheOstrich » 28 Oct 2016, 21:24

It did not want Brexit and now it has it, it does not know how to deal with it.


Both the BBC and ITV are dealing with it by employing the most negative tone of news reporting they can dredge up, and injecting an unfailing dose of cynicism on the odd occasions when they have to report on positive news emerging about Brexit.

Propagandist-in-chief seems to be that Laura Kuennesberg on the Beeb :evil: , but what I find even more shocking is the general standard of news presentation on ITV, whatever the subject matter; truly the Daily Mail of the television world.
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Re: Dangerous words.

Postby Suff » 30 Oct 2016, 10:15

The only reason Blair can even get any oxygen space on this is because A50 has not been triggered. Once it is triggered there is nothing he, or anyone else in the UK, can do about it.

The EU will, absolutely, insure that once A50 is triggered the UK will be ejected. They've already suffered the initial consequences; now they get to live the "benefits" as they see it. The thorn in the side is removed, only to be seen as a serious act of self harm in later decades.

The noise, the noise. I'm pretty much ignoring it. Because, as the press seem to like to forget, Only May has the right and the responsibility to trigger A50 and nobody in the UK, not the courts, not the Lords and certainly not Parliament, can stop her should she have the determination to do it.

I expect the tone to become more strident as March approaches.

As the legal cases wind up I expect the same result in all of them. No jurisdiction. The Irish one has already returned that. The British one will have to return that too. If the idiots had understood the EU in the slightest, they would have gone straight to Strasbourg and raised a case that May did not have the democratic mandate to trigger A50 and it should not be accepted until she did. If the EU court upheld that judgement, then May could have triggered A50 all she wanted but the EU would be within their rights to reject it until she had a majority of parliament back it.

These remainers who are trying to challenge Brexit don't deserve to win because they are so stupid that they don't even understand what it is they are trying to remain in and that is really, really, bad for the UK. They don't seem to understand, wilfully or not, that the EU has sole jurisdiction over EU treaties and EU wide laws. Trying to challenge a competence, conferred by an EU treaty, in the UK courts, is nothing short of idiocy and stupidity.

Well they are politicians after all!
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Re: Dangerous words.

Postby Workingman » 30 Oct 2016, 11:47

Suff, I was not worried about A50, I was worried about the tone of Blair's statement and why it was given prominence on the main news outlets when the interview was with a very minor publication.

Using phrases such as "prize apart", "insurgents", and changing "the will of the people" sounded like a call to arms. They are no surprise coming from a warmongering megalomaniac such as Blair. Sadly there are enough idiots out there for some of them to consider taking him up on it. However, he is one of the most loathed men in the UK so it will only ever be a small band: thank heavens.
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Re: Dangerous words.

Postby Suff » 30 Oct 2016, 12:24

Yeah I was more responding to Ossie.

It's Blair all over though isn't it. If you think about it his entire tenure was about "trust me", "ignore government", "vote for me and I'll get it done". Manifesto's ignored, promises made and dismissed as irrelevant and then taking us into a war we really didn't need.

If you also add on the attempts to give Gib back to the Spanish and the Falklands back to Argentina and the rebate back, all on the understanding that He and He alone would become the first president of the EU Council of Ministers....

Blair all over. I never get exercised over what he says and I expect the press to give him column inches. Remember he protected the press, Cameron vilified them (justified IMHO). It was also Blair who politicised the BBC, something it is now almost impossible to get out of without disbanding it.
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Re: Dangerous words.

Postby Kaz » 30 Oct 2016, 19:24

AliasAggers wrote:
Workingman wrote:
The 'will' of the people has been made, get on with it.


I quite agree.

I'm surprised that the man has the impudence to express his opinions. As you say.
he should be behind bars.


Agreed x
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