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The Guardian vomiting forth on Musk

Postby Suff » 13 May 2022, 12:34

Again.

Unfortunately the author of this little rant didn't bother too much with fact checking. The Author, in fact, pointed to a PingWest article which has been roundly debunked as nothing more than a smear campaign on Tesla. You can tell when PingWest is scraping the barrel when it includes the Model S as "evidence" to back up it's position that the factory in Shanghai is somehow all wrong. Clue check, the Model S is made in the US and some are assembled from US components in Holland.

One of the pictures, supposed to back up the Tesla "horror story" of not feeding it's workers,

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Is classic disinformation. This was taken of a worker on the Phase2 of the factory. This is a construction worker who works outside the factory, not a factory worker who works inside it.

Check out the "horrendous" food situation at Giga Shanghai yourself.

https://youtu.be/2rrnxbukvlM?t=747

So what brought on this Guardian article vomiting sewage about Musk?

Two things really. One, he said.

“There is just a lot of super talented hardworking people in China who strongly believe in manufacturing,” the billionaire said. “They won’t just be burning the midnight oil, they will be burning the 3am oil, they won’t even leave the factory type of thing, whereas in America people are trying to avoid going to work at all.”


The other is on the TED conference he said

“nobody ever changed the world on 40 hours a week”


Well that's enough to drive Labour movements off the edge anywhere in the world. After all we all know it is far better for people to work 36 hours a week or less. Much more relaxing and everything will get done just as well. Won't it?

Then it drops off into deep blue idiocy territory with.

In April, Tesla restricted its Shanghai workers from leaving the factory under a so-called “closed-loop” system originally developed by Chinese authorities to contain Beijing Olympics participants.


My son is currently working in China. No company is restricting it's Shanghai workers from leaving the factory. The Shanghai Government has given the workers a choice. They can stay at home (and get a minimum stipend), or they can go to work and stay in a closed loop system and stay there until the emergency is over. Tesla is one of nearly 2,000 companies providing the same "option" to their workers.

The Guardian idiot then compounds the stupidity by saying

While locked inside, the workers were reportedly made to work 12-hour shifts, six days in a row, and to sleep on factory floors.


So having determined that Tesla is NOT locking it's workers inside, how about the shifts? Reality is that Tesla workers work a 12 hour 4 day shift rota. When the workers were given the opportunity to come back to work, it was recognised that they would only get 2 of the 3 work crews back in. So the workers agreed to work 6 days instead of 4. That means they get paid for 6 days instead of 4. That means they work a week and get paid for 1.5 weeks. I know, this is BAD. Really, really, BAD. The workers have nothing to do, only minimal recreation space (the factory is, after all, designed to build vehicles it is not a recreation park), therefore what do they have to do but work?

Of course if you didn't watch the video (it is set just at the entry to the restaurants), but if you read the PingWest article, you'll be worried about their food health.... Watch the video.

To add to this, TorqueNews covered the benefits that workers at Giga Shanghai get. One of them is 3 all you can eat meals a day in these "terrible" restaurants.

So why would these workers want to do this anyway and why do they put up with 48 hours over a 6 day week in 12 hours shifts? You could watch the TorqueNews video on it. Or you can just nod along with the Guardian in hating Musk.

The key benefit that Tesla Shanghai workers get is a 17 month pay schedule. 12 months income. 4 quarterly, production related, bonuses plus one annual production related bonus. You might wonder, or not, why Giga Shanghai is knocking it out of the park every month. They just keep pushing out more and more cars. If you read that PingWest article you would see that the suppliers to Tesla were struggling with Tesla producing such a "ridiculous" amount of cars every month for a factory. I mean, 20,000 a month, crazy. How many did Shanghai push out in Q4 2021? 160,000. Over 50k per month.

Why? Because of those production related bonuses which drive their pay way above any other auto worker in China.

The Guardian article also shoots itself in the foot (what a surprise), by saying that Tesla Shanghai is

on par with China’s extreme work culture, nicknamed “996”, in which workers are expected to work from 9am to 9pm, six days a week. The practice has been the source of protests in recent years and has been characterized as a form of modern slavery.


Yeah but hang on a minute. He's locking them in the factory and turning them into slaves 6 days a week. That is hardly compatible with the statement of on par with China’s extreme work culture.

But let's hang on another minute. If you read the Torque news video, the workers work 4 12 hour shifts and then have two days off. A little more than a 48 hour week, but certainly not 12 hours a day 6 days a week with the implication that there is only one day off (sunday), before going back for another 108 hour week.

Tesla work a 4 day 48 hour "work week" then get 2 days off. This is hardly what I'd call slave labour. In fact in an average 30 day month, Tesla workers get 12 days downtime. I average 8.5. Again, hardly what I'd call slave labour.

To be honest, rather than avoiding Tesla, I'd say a lot of manufacturing workers would be trying to tear the doors down. Hence the policy of Tesla of firing anyone who simply doesn't fit, wants to cause trouble, or doesn't really want to work. Floods of workers trying to get in, why take those who won't bring the company forward?

This article is the worst kind of smear story. One which leverages discredited and borderline illegal reporting then uses misleading and inaccurate statements to build a story of censure.

Scumsuckers. If it was not for their outstanding climate reporting I would not read a word they have to say. Worse, Tesla is all about climate mitigation. Breaking the Guardian's traditions of honesty about the whole thing.
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Re: The Guardian vomiting forth on Musk

Postby Workingman » 13 May 2022, 13:49

Sorry to inform you but few of us care. That's why your long-winded St Elon, Tesla, SpaceX and Starlink posts get so few responses. You might be infatuated but the rest of us are not. Why not write to the Gourdion and complain?
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Re: The Guardian vomiting forth on Musk

Postby Suff » 13 May 2022, 14:25

Yep ignore the truth, lap up the BS.

Was that short enough?
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Re: The Guardian vomiting forth on Musk

Postby cromwell » 15 May 2022, 10:02

Progressive liberals have got it in for Musk, I don't know why. Perhaps it is because he doesn't agree with their agenda.
Bill Gates is allegedly "shorting" Tesla shares (whatever shorting is).
Musk taking over Twitter was called "A direct threat to American democracy", which is hysterical nonsense.
He has upset some very important figures and they have it in for him.
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Re: The Guardian vomiting forth on Musk

Postby Suff » 16 May 2022, 10:18

Shorting, or the practise of short selling, is the practise of selling stock at lower than their current market value to either force the value lower or take advantage of a dropping trend.

Short sellers often borrow shares, sell them for less than they bought them for and when the market drops, buy them back for less than they sold them for. Thus making a profit.

Market manipulation you might say? Not so say the exchange regulators, after all if you look at Apple or Amazon, less than 1% of the stock is exposed at any one time.

All very nice. But in 2018 and 2019 30% of Tesla stock was shorted and the shorts tried to cut Tesla off from financing because the failure of Tesla would bankrupt Musk.

The regulators saw nothing wrong with this and didn't investigate the increasingly desperate lies when their position became untenable.

Between the start of 2020 and 2022 Tesla stock grew 700%. The shorts got burned to the tune of €60bn. Musk was delighted. He was portrayed as a monster.

Whatever! Why bother with the truth?
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Re: The Guardian vomiting forth on Musk

Postby cromwell » 20 May 2022, 15:54

Musk is public enemy no 1 to the liberal progressives. Probably because he is rich, sucessful and doesn't follow their agenda, being a maverick.
So now he said he was going to vote Republican and said now watch the smear stories start.
Sure enough a day later he's accused of sexually harassing a flight attendant.
The dark and dirty doings of those in power; and not all those who hold true power are elected politicians. When the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation gives the Tony Blair institute $20 million dollars plus, they aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts imo.
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