Social Services forcibly remove baby by caesarean section...

[Kaz]

Perhaps they know far more about the lady's past than we are allowed to?

[KateLMead]

Oh dear Kaz, I have a Great deal of admiration for you, but I find it incredible to think that the actions of the authorities
Whether she is bi polar, manic or any thing else, she was "FORCED" in her unwell state to have her baby removed by Caesarian that was not even due. The secrecy that surrounded this case is outrageous. The treatment of the mother shocking...We are living in a strange society
Where unacceptable actions are taken as a matter of course. No questions asked.

[Kaz]

Kate I am not defending what they did, just trying to put another side to the debate. None of us know the full story - I don't and neither do you - there is nothing personal in any of this.......

[KateLMead]

I know there isn't Kaz, and I am sorry if I gave the wrong impression.. I am furious, and I know many despise the DM however today it almost repeated word for word what I have said regarding methods used in Nazi Germany, the secrecy, abuse,experimenting on pregnant women and the mentally handicapped. Where on earth are we going as a nation. This is not the first pregnant woman who has had her child snatched from her care, the practice is rife throughout the UK. But covered up as every thing else is covered up that the system considers we should be kept in the dark about