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Postby Suff » 29 May 2016, 14:04

And it happens to come from a letter to a newspaper not far from where I was born.

I was saying very much the same only yesterday...

How low this country has fallen when people don't even want to enlighten themselves on such a critical vote.

Sometimes I think "why bother, it won't impact you". But then I can't seem to just let it go. I also hate seeing those faceless robots in Brussels win.
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Postby cromwell » 29 May 2016, 16:44

It is, but the public have been deliberately under informed on the subject of the EU. Maybe because our rulers saw staying in as inevitable and even noble, so why bother telling anyone anything - we're staying in and that's that.

We have been in the EU for more than 40 years and still 90% of people know next to nothing about it. Part of the BBC's mandate is "to educate and inform" and on the subject of the EU, it has done neither.
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Postby Suff » 29 May 2016, 18:02

And all those years of education, learning to read, reason, research.

Apparently all for nothing.
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Postby KateLMead » 04 Jun 2016, 06:05

I wonder if we have been under informed when we learn that 3,500 Ballot papers have been sent to migrants by mistake in the EU Fiasco? We can probably quadruple that three times or more knowing how we are fed lie after lie..As stated Poll Blunder could let EU Nationals vote.
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Postby medsec222 » 04 Jun 2016, 08:11

KateLM wrote:I wonder if we have been under informed when we learn that 3,500 Ballot papers have been sent to migrants by mistake in the EU Fiasco? We can probably quadruple that three times or more knowing how we are fed lie after lie..As stated Poll Blunder could let EU Nationals vote.


Reminds me a bit of the missing boxes of votes from Thanet in the general election which turned up about six hours late.
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Postby Aggers » 05 Jun 2016, 20:22

You can't trust anyone in authority now.

The way this IN/OUT campaign is being conducted makes me wonder whether we are heading for a civil war.

I certainly feel I could throttle some of them.
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Postby Suff » 05 Jun 2016, 20:30

Yep there is certainly a few I could happily sign up to a course of involuntary euthanasia....
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Postby cromwell » 06 Jun 2016, 07:47

Aggers wrote:You can't trust anyone in authority now.

The way this IN/OUT campaign is being conducted makes me wonder whether we are heading for a civil war.

I certainly feel I could throttle some of them.


It has been pretty dire Aggers, for sure. Some of the deliberate deception, half truths, dodgy statistics etc are a pretty sad indictment of both sides. What wound me up yesterday was the BBC stressing how well Orkney and the Shetlands had done from "EU funds".
The fact of the matter is that we give the EU £13 billion and get back £6 billion - less than half. OK I can see why, to try and build up poorer EU countries, but the Beeb deliberately ignored half of the truth. They set out to create the misleading impression that the rich EU is selflessly giving the poor old UK lots of money. It isn't true, they know it isn't true but they do it anyway. It's appalling behaviour from an organisation that boasts of its "balance".
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Postby medsec222 » 06 Jun 2016, 10:26

The intense concentration of trying to pin the BREXIT side down to exactly how much we give towards the EU is a nonsense. We are net contributors to the EU and give more than we get back. That is all voters need to know. They can then make their own minds up where they want this money to be spent - at home or abroad.
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Postby Suff » 06 Jun 2016, 17:57

What irritates me more is the fact that the BBC and others go on and on as if this money just comes from somewhere. It's not even as if anyone picks up on the fact that the alternative is saying we don't trust our government to fund Orkney.

Or even more fundamental. If Orkney is receiving more than they pay in, every year, then they are getting it from someone else in the UK. Via the money we pay to the EU.

If it were UK based subsidy, then, eventually, someone would demand "why is Orkney always getting this money we are paying for". Yet if it's EU money, that we pay for, then that's OK then isn't it..

Barking. Totally barking.
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