Thejuicemedia on EV policy in Australia

[Suff]

I must admit they have some cracking video's on this stuff. So I thought I'd share this one on the Aus Victorian Govern4ment's intention to tax EV's.

Public health warning, this is an Australian hard hitting clip so bad language is a given!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLflYkgnNBY

[Suff]

They have one on climate policy and Trump's policies too. It's a bit older but equally hard hitting.

Public health warning. The F word is integral to the message so get's a rather large outing.

https://www.thejuicemedia.com/honest-go ... were-fked/

[Workingman]

At last... someone telling the truth about EVs... and the climate.

Say goodbye to your bribe, sorry, purchase subsidy.

Say hello to:
Paying the full cost of your charging kit
Paying more for your electricity - they will find a way
Paying road tax, erm, VED or whatever it is, probably based on weight
Paying for parking
And tolls
And recycling
Riding a bike
Tofu
Avocado free meals

What's not to like? FFS.

[Suff]

Yes but FFS? Fer what's Sake? Or is it Fossil Fuel Subsidy?

Say goodbye to your bribe, sorry, purchase subsidy.

Well this is an interesting one. So it was OK to "bribe" people with a scrappage scheme to get car sales going in 2009/2010? But it is not OK to give a helping hand to buy a more expensive EV which, over time, would cost you less but you just don't have the extra cash to buy it?

This is the crux of the post I made about Obama which his speechwriters ripped the body off almost word for word. The climate lobby was bitching and whining that he wouldn't use "the words". My response was he was walking the walk rather than talking the talk as most politicians do, especially as "the words" were radioactive in the political sphere. In fact, without his subsidy scheme, we would still not have more than a "compliance" car EV infrastructure. We'd still have no choice but to buy a fossil burner no matter what we believed or wanted. Because nobody would be able to enter the market and make a go of it before being crushed by the competition who had no intention, at all, of producing electric vehicles and killing their lucrative fossil burning business.

So subsidies are a good thing. Didn't hear people bitching and whining about Solar subsidies which reduced their electric bills. No matter whether it really made much difference to the grid or not. They were fighting them off and people started a mad scramble to get into it before the subsidies shut off. No matter what they believed.

So why not a subsidy? Build new industries? Why can't we have a massive vehicle battery industry in the UK? Rebalance the economy away from banking. Because it takes subsidies?

Whilst it has an element of humour to it, the underlying message is stark.

[Workingman]

Lghten up, dude, my reply was TIC, a bit like the videos, hence the s.

[Suff]

I know, I know, I blame it on the heart attack....

Just keep slapping me and I will manage that.

[cromwell]

Outside the cities though, Australia is very different to Europe. Away from Australian cities EVs wouldn't work at all.
I was watching the Henry Cole show The World's Greatest Motorcycle Rides last week.
He stopped at the Ningaloo Reef resort. Left it and headed back to the main road. Which is 150km from Ningaloo reef resort.
In Aus, the distances between places are just too great. EVs don't have the range yet.

[Suff]

The shape of things to come.

The specs below are where we can be today. Yes it's over £100k, but you won't find another 200mph+ vehicle with 1,100hp which can travel so far or have a 184mpg best rated power equivalent.

This vehicle is on sale today, delivery for orders today within 3-4 months. this is not hype or maybe, this is now. What is now will be more commonplace in 10 years from now. Vehicles in OZ average about 25mpg, especially the big monsters. With an 18 gallon tank you can get another 103 miles and, yes, you can fill up in 10 minutes (our big cars have 18 gallon tanks, it takes an AGE to fill them).

However, with the Tesla, so long as you have a modern supercharger, you can go to the toilet, have a coffee, or a meal, then go back out to your vehicle, which has charged itself in your absence and drive another 500 miles. No standing at a petrol pump, running to the toilet, grabbing a coffee and still only being 10 minutes faster than the person sitting having a coffee, having been to the toilet, watching you sweating in the sun filling your vehicle, with an amused look on the face.

Just as a question to ask yourself, just how many people are going to drive 625 miles, then fill up and drive another 625 miles? With the EV, you can stop after 400 miles, have a meal and a break and be ready to go again. 400 miles at OZ highway speeds is 5 hours. 625 miles is 7 and a half hours.

This is the question you have to ask yourself. Would you, or many others, drive for 15 hours straight with a 10 minute break? With the EV, you can do almost the same journey in three 400 mile hops with a 30 minute stop each time. Yes, granted you get a supercharger at each stop. But this is coming.

Mere humans, on the other hand, might want a full 1.5 hour stop after 5 hours, which is enough for even a 50kw charger, then drive another 400 miles and sack out for the night, if they even drive that far.

As was proven with even a VW ID.3, recently, on a test from Edinburgh to Bournemouth, a 1 hour stop around Leeds with a very quick 15 minute top up just south of London gave enough to do the 500 mile drive comfortably.

At which point do we stop and realise that 625 miles is actually far further than most people will ever need to drive in one go? Then we can stop saying "but it doesn't go 625 miles in one hop". No it doesn't, neither doe 95% of the people. And you don't have to stand next to it as it fills up either.

A point to remember. I have direct experience of this. My Ford Galaxy 2.3l automatic, on the three times I drove it 1,500 miles to Sweden and 1,500 miles back, would need to be filled up around every 400 miles. That's 22 miles per gallon. Granted it had half a ton of stuff in it. But on the Autobahn it needed to be filled up every 250 miles. That's less than 19 mpg and a true PITA when driving that far. I could live with a vehicle that did 300 miles with my foot down then refilled itself whilst I sat and had a cup of coffee.

This is the future.

Oh and Tesla set up a Supercharger manufacturing factory in China over the last 6 months. Expected output? 20,000 per year. Superchargers are something which are coming. Faster than most believe.

https://ev-database.org/imp/car/1406/Te ... -Plaidplus


EVDB Real Range
Range * 415 mi
Vehicle Consumption * 275 Wh/mi
CO2 Emissions 0 g/km
Vehicle Fuel Equivalent * 146 mpg


WLTP Ratings
Range * 522 mi
Rated Consumption * No Data
Vehicle Consumption * 220 Wh/mi
CO2 Emissions 0 g/km
Rated Fuel Equivalent * No Data
Vehicle Fuel Equivalent * 184 mpg

Fastcharge Power (max) * 250 kW DC
Fastcharge Time (42->332 mi) * 30 min
Fastcharge Speed * 580 mph
Click here for all charging information

[Suff]

Just as a thought, My Kawasaki GTR1,000 has a truly HUGE tank. It would only have 13 miles left once it hit the highway on that journey. My Honda ST1100 Pan Euro also has a truly massive tank, it doesn't go as far as the Kawasaki!

My old Honda CB250n would have been on reserve when it got to the highway.

[cromwell]

I know the electric revolution is coming Suff.
There are a fair few worried voices about the economic effect of zero carbon policies though.
The Hornsea One wind farm will be subsidised at a rate of circa £500 million per annum for 15 years. In total the support costs for all three phases of Hornsea One will be circa £4.2 billion.
I just wish they'd get on with maybe building a couple of nuclear sites for reliable energy supply.