Axel Rudakubana

[cromwell]

Well now.
As we all now, Rudakubana is accused of killing three innocent little girls in Southport last July, which in turn led to public anger and riots.
The response to the killings has been interesting, to say the least.
Originally the attacker was "from Wales". His parents "were Christians", and people who were getting upset that it was a Muslim attacker, or an Islamist attack, were being misled by "misinformation".
On July 29, Merseyside Police said the motivation for the attack in which three small children were killed and six other girls and two adults were injured was “unclear”, but added that it was “not believed to be terror-related”.
Three months later - three months! - it turns out that the authorities still won't tell us if young Axel is a muslim / muslim convert, but he has been charged with being in possession of the poison Ricin and being in possession of an Al Qaeda terrorist manual.

And look at the timing of this latest news, news they have known about for months.
Released late afternoon on the day before the budget, so that this news may be buried as quickly as may be. Disgraceful, and it points to a level of collusion between the government, the police and the CPS that they are strenuously denying.
I don't believe them.

[cruiser2]

Until now, there has been no mention by the police that they have searched the home or other buidings in which AR lived or used before the incident.

The press have onlyshown the rea where the three girls were killed.

[Workingman]

There is a lot of speculation about who knew what and when and how they acted, but it is only speculation and everyone should be careful so that it does not prejudice the trial.

The facts will come out in the trial, which starts in a few weeks, and we should leave it at that.

[cromwell]

We will, unless he is found to be mentally unfit to stand trial.

[cromwell]

Well what a shock.
Young Dai Radukubana has plead guilty; so nothing will be coming out at trial.
No inconvenient questions about his religion, terrorism or anything else.
Straight off to jail or the loony bin, move along, nothing to see here.

[medsec222]

There was a comment made on a news bullitin that it was not a terrorist attack and just because he had terrorist-type literature it did not prove he was terrorist. It was also said he had the poison Ricin. Where did he get that from I wonder, surely a terrorist organisation would have supplied that. I doubt he got it from Home Bargains.

[Workingman]

Ricin is a residue left in the pulp after extracting oil from castor oil seeds.. The Al-Qaeda manual Rudakubana held probably contained instructions for making it.

Castor oil has many uses such as in medicinal preparations, beauty products and specialist oils used in industry so there are probably plenty of ways for a determined individual to get hold of some seeds.

I see that the judge says that he will impose a long prison sentence but that he cannot give a whole-life term due to Rudakubana's age at the time of the murders. So much for justice.

[medsec222]

Information has started to drip out slowly via the media prior to sentencing on Thursday. Apparently he was known to counter terrorism and had been reported to them at least three times since the age of 13. No action was taken by them apparently as they could not find a link to terrorism. However, it has been revealed by the media that recently the boys' father had stopped him getting taken by taxi to his previous school, Formby High, as he had told, I think the father, that he wanted to cause a massacre at a school. The taxi driver drove off and the father managed to get the boy back inside the house. What happened subsequently, if anything, has not yet been revealed.

[victor]

All he needs is a rope

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[medsec222]

The Daily Mail is reporting that a two year old child and an adult have been stabbed to death in Germany. They have arrested an Afghan asylum seeker who is known to have psychological problems.