Coventry

[Workingman]

A quick cruise around the net reveals that Coventry has approximately:
132,000 Households
127 Schools of various types
3 major hospitals
93 GP services, many with multiple doctors
A bus station + buses + staff
A railway station + trains + staff
A road network
Utilities networks
Shops, offices, industry = work

Imagine if a new one had to built from scratch every year.

Coincidentally, Coventry is about the same size as net migration to the UK last year.

Go figure.

[cromwell]

Unfortunately our politicians are moral cowards. They can come up with whatever policies they like but at the end of the day illegal immigration is only going to be tackled by boots on the ground and hands on collars - a physical presence. As far as I can see there is no political will to do this.

[Rodo]

They are always held back by 'uman rights.

[TheOstrich]

Don't forget the Ricoh Stadium, two further decent rugby union sides, a decent rugby league side in KIngstone League 1, and more traffic snarl-ups in the city centre than you can shake a stick at .....

I am convinced the only way we will be able to control our borders is to get out of the EU and that's how I'll be voting. We need to curb legal immigration as well as having zero tolerance on illegal immigration. Sod the economy and the CBI, if the economy shrinks because we've left Europe, who cares, we'll just repatriate all the immigrants who have come over in the last 10 years. Oh, and no further granting of British citizenship starting today ...

[TheOstrich]

They are always held back by 'uman rights.

... yes, and ditch the 'uman rights convention while yer at it ....

[Rodo]

Sounds good Ossie. I'll vote for you.

[Workingman]

The problem with politicians and businesses is that they think that spreading the load - a few hundred here, a thousand or so there - makes little difference. In the beginning that might have been true, but there comes a time when everywhere becomes overloaded.

That point has been reached; and then some.

It has to stop, and it is not racist to say so.

[Suff]

Well perhaps this EU initiative to force every country to double the immigrants it takes, due to the lack of any real plan to deal with immigrants coming from Africa, has been a wake up call for the rest of the EU?? They were mostly fine when most of them wanted to come to Germany or Britain or Sweden or Denmark.

Funnily enough now that the EU want's to "spread the load" the rest are not so keen and becoming quite vocal about it...

Even the EU is a finite space. But, looking at France, it has more than twice the land area, 4 times the arable land area and less population than the UK. Yet France is supposed to take the same or less than the UK....

Whilst I don't blame France at all, I think the EU is barking....

There are 2 billion people in Africa, if they carry on the way they are going, they will export 2 billion and still have 2 billion they can't feed or clothe properly.

The US and Australia have the right attitude. You can't run away from the hard work of making progress in your own country. You have to stay and do the work to make it progress. You can't just take the benefits which come form another country having done that hard work and expect that home will suddenly have "improved" in your absence....

It will take the EU another 20 years to feel the pain that the UK already feels with immigration. So why stay to be overloaded by a regime which has no clue what it's doing?

[cromwell]

One thing that Africa is very good at is producing people in general, and poor people in particular.

I've probably posted these figures before, but here goes anyway.

Population in 1973 Population 2013
Nigeria - 60 million - 173 million
Ethiopia - 31 million - 94 million
Cameroon - 7 million - 22 million
Sudan - 11 million - 38 million
Niger - 5 million - 18 million
Chad - 4 million - 13 million
Iraq - 11 million - 32 million

Part of the reason why there are so many illegal immigrants busting a gut to get to Europe is the population explosion in so many of these countries. And that is down to them, not us. Typically the population of the countries above has tripled in forty years. This isn't sustainable.

I think a lot of people are being unrealistic and thinking if we send a few boats out and rescue the odd thousands of migrants this summer, the problem will go away. It won't. What is driving this emigration is the economic inequality between Europe and Africa, and the fact that African populations are going through the roof. Neither of these problems is a quick fix.

To me, the last is their problem. We can blame Tony Blair for many things re his idiotic policies in Libya and Iraq, but we can't blame him for the population of Ethiopia tripling in forty years!

To put it simply, is it right that the poor of Africa can all emigrate to Europe? No. Could we cope with them all anyway? No.

So we have to stop it, simple as that.

[Aggers]

To put it simply, is it right that the poor of Africa can all emigrate to Europe? No.
Could we cope with them all anyway? No.

So we have to stop it, simple as that.

That is patently obvious, Cromwell, but why can't our politicians see it? I just don't understand.

My remaining possible life-span means that, frankly, the results of the mass exodus from Africa
doesn't bother me that much, but I can't understand why the younger generations don't seem to
be concerned about what is now going on. Can't they see what the consequences will be, or has
their modern, technology-filled, lifestyles made them quite incapable of using their brains?