Workingman wrote:I am not buying the emissions free hype, not until the production of renewable energy exceeds total consumption: 2025:2030:2040 - no chance. Then there's the environmental destruction and recycling problems EVs create. Let's just forget them, eh?
Emissions free at the point of use. "So what" you say? Well so what is that if you stall producing electric vehicles until the grid is 100% renewable, then it takes you another 25 years to get the Fossil burners out of the system. However if you spend the time, whilst transitioning the grid, to move off fossil burners and onto EV, the day after you go emissions free 100% on the grid, your transport is emissions free 100%. Well for the vehicles which can. Not all can.
It is not about "today" as such. It is about the journey to emissions free and being smart enough to not have a fully emissions free grid whilst the rest of your country is still pumping out 66% of your energy on fossil fuels.
As for V2G, I've said it before but I will reiterate. The Average miles driven daily, in the UK, is just over 19. 1kw/h averages at 3.5 miles. So when you have burned that 5.7kw/h for today, you can afford to share the wealth of the rest of your 57kw/h battery before it fills itself up again overnight in the low period. For the people who used it as a room heater, it probably had 4/5 of the battery left in the morning. Enough energy to go to work the next day, come back, have another warm night, then charge it up again when the power came back on.
We are way, WAY, past the compliance car Nissan leaf with a 22kw/h battery in it and enough power to go to work, do the shopping, go home and do the work run again the next day before needing a recharge. Even then, the Leaf suffered really badly if you charged it at low power and also even worse if you charged it in temps over 35C due to "passive" cooling on the battery pack.
When I worked at Tesco in Welwyn, I noted that every Tesla in the car park was sitting in a parking bay, just like every other car, but every PHEV (plug in hybrid), was plugged into the very few charging points and hogging them all day long; every single day. I never saw a Tesla plugged in at work.
The new energy world is moving very rapidly today. So fast it is often hard to keep up. From enzyme based energy storage research in Sweden to Perovskite on silicon solar, cyro air in the UK and wind turbines which are ten times the power of the tiddlers we were installing just 10 years ago. Hard to keep up sometimes but we have to because some of these decisions are important and our Criminals erm, leaders, would love to run a snow job on us.
Whilst it is easy to pick holes and claim that it's all a fairy story, that is the picture of a decade ago. Today they have most of the issues thought through. Yes they have a weakness on renewable fragility in the grid, but they are working on that too. This is something which is happening, whether we want it or not, there is no longer any choice. If you ask me I'd rather see a Tesla world than a Nissan leaf world and an overpriced VW cludge.
But that's just me.