Masks in school, yes or no?

[cruiser2]

Slightly off the menu, why has the main news item been the total number of deaths since the pandemic started?

It seemed the daily number had lost its signifigance.

[miasmum]

Because they’re not going up quickly enough to terrify everybody so let’s find another way to do it. That’s why Cruiser

From the beginning it was mentioned Omicron would be less severe. It’s been around for weeks now but still they are using it as a stick to beat us with

No you shouldn’t go to work and spread it, but As with last week my husband was the only social worker in. The other one was at home with her positive daughter as she couldn’t go to school and usually grandparents have her but as positive they couldn’t She had nothing but a stuffy nose and a slight headache. But someone had to be there and as not positive just unwell it was Tim Fully PPE’d and masked as per

[Workingman]

The 150,000 is being given because it is a 'milestone' figure, like a 21st birthday or 50th wedding anniversary. Hardly anything is being made of it. It has been heading that way for weeks and the total number of death is always shown in the figures.

The daily figures are mooted, not because they are not scary enough, but because they have been incomplete because of the holiday period and Bank Holidays. Nobody has hidden them or kept them secret, they have always been available

here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk

and here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

Caveats are that the data are incomplete and that nations within the UK report them at different times. Scary eh?

I don't get all these claims of the inducement of terror or panic. Since omicron broke in November the messages have been constant and clear:

* It is more transmissible
* It is milder
* The vaccines and boosters still work
* Those who require hospitalisation are not as ill and their numbers are relatively flat
* Deaths from all Covid variants are also relatively flat.

An inducement to go all Homer Simpson 'wibble-wobble'? I think not.

If anything the above messages have been the clarion call to end restrictions and get back to normal.

[miasmum]

So why is everybody sitting at home twiddling their fingers? At what point will they decide unless you are unwell, with anything, you use common sense and go to work and school as normal? You avoid the vulnerable, who also have a duty to protect themselves and we start living with it and getting back to normal

[Workingman]

So why is everybody sitting at home twiddling their fingers?

Some, because the rules say they have to WFH, others because there is not much open for them to do anything.... because of the rules. Very few will be peeking out from behind the sofa in abject terror because of what some no-mark journalist from a red top told them that is what to do.

Most of us are just getting on with life within what the restrictions, such as they are, allow us to do.

[miasmum]

I meant purely those that test positive, are sitting at home twiddling their fingers, not the general public. Although they may choose to, that is their choice. I am not for one minute suggesting anyone is hiding behind a sofa, not now anyway.

Sorry I dont know what WFH means.

My whole point on this is that the positive well are off work, for no real reason, but the unwell, with other conditions, are having to carry the load.

[Workingman]

Those testing positive are 'ill' with Covid and are known to pass it on, as are those who are asymptomatic, except that they do not know they are ill.

I have not seen anything, anywhere, saying that those who are ill with other things should go into work, quite the opposite. Some, like yourself and T, might do so out of a sense of duty, but nobody is being forced.

WFH = working from home.

[miasmum]

They are not all ill some are purely carriers. I know several people with not a single symptom just found on routine testing so therefore unable to work,I know even more with just a stuffy nose and slight headache and a few who felt like they had a cold for a couple of days but not enough to be off work usually. This is why we are grinding to a halt everywhere.

We need to accept coronavirus is and has been here for years. The common cold is a corona/respiratory virus but we’ve never given it a name and tested for it.

[cromwell]

At what point will they decide unless you are unwell, with anything, you use common sense and go to work and school as normal? You avoid the vulnerable, who also have a duty to protect themselves and we start living with it and getting back to normal

Hear hear.

But the lockdowners and mad jabbers in government are still persisting.

Nadhim Zadawi was interviewed on BBC today and was asked by Sophie Raworth why only 50% of children in the 12-16 bracket had been jabbed.
The answer is very simply that a lot of parents don't want their kids jabbed; a point which interviewer and interviewee both studiously avoided.

[Workingman]

ONS. 07/01/2022

Over half (54%) of adults said children in their household had already received a COVID-19 vaccine (Great Britain, 15 December 2021 to 3 January 2022), up from 17% in the period 6 to 17 October 2021. Around one-quarter (26%) of adults with a child aged 12 to 15 years living in their household who remained unvaccinated said the child is very or fairly likely to receive a COVID-19 vaccine.

Maybe Ms Raworth and Mr Zahawi should do a bit of reading then perhaps they can hold a meaningful interview and Mr Z could have told Sophie that there is a likelihood that 80% would be vaccinated in due course.

Not that it really matters. We do not have hit squads going out and rounding up unvaccinated teenagers and forcibly jabbing them. Now that would be of concern and truly terror and panic inducing.