Today is the day.

[Suff]

Actually London has a much higher number of non ethnic British than any other part of the UK. Which means the slur tactics worked better there. The fact that they are more media savvy just means that the slur tactics were right in front of them every day as they were repeated over and over again by like minded people.

Labour likes that because they vote for them....

Which tells you what Labour thinks about our country. If you are listening.

I'm waiting till the EU elections are reported tomorrow/Monday. Voting for local councils who control your council tax and services is very different from any other election.

[KateLMead]

Cannot discover how we did.(Powys) I looked at results. Double Dutch to me.

[Workingman]

Kate, Powys only voted in the Euro elections and not council ones, that's why you cannot find any results. The Euro results are due tomorrow evening.

[miasmum]

Londoners are just more tolerant about the diversity of their city. To be honest I much prefer to see the Eastern Europeans in our town centre, especially the Poles. They are well mannered, well dressed, their children are clean and cared for. Contrast that with the slovenly, obese, rude, dirty locals, with their umpteen kids, all dirty, all rude. Plus at least if I am listening to a different language I am not listening to the F word every other word, which is the only way the English seem to be able to converse.

I passed a couple yesterday and she was saying to her three year old "well it's your own effing fault you are not going. I told you to effing well behave. You effed it up for yourself"

Lovely, give me Polish, Romanian, Lativian any day

[Suff]

Londoners are just more tolerant about the diversity of their city.

My father is a Londoner as are his three brothers. I can assure you that the "tolerant" one's of the so called diversity, or division of ethnicity as we see it, are the Labour voters. This is in my experience, not just my opinion.

Whilst London is more cosmopolitan than the rest of the UK, it also has larger divisions and the largest section of Labour voters who vote Labour because they see them as "for" mixed ethnicity rather than being aware of it, tolerating it, or simply colour blind to ethnicity divisions.

London is a very special case, but they are only 6M of the ~70m in the country and ~46M registered voters. To be honest, I never consider London when thinking about bellwether political issues.

[cromwell]

I laughed out loud at Sky news tonight, which is a first. They were interviewing stallholders on Newark market about the UKIP results.
One young woman said that she thought it was all older people as "I'm more open minded. I see the bigger picture.".

Get you! Someone who has been taught that if you hold X set of views, that automatically makes you more intelligent.

[Suff]

Get you! Someone who has been taught that if you hold X set of views, that automatically makes you more intelligent.

Interestingly that used to be the Tories. Today it is the PC brigade. If you "see the bigger picture" and let everyone else run your country for you, then you are for more "enlightened". If course it also can't be your fault when it all goes wrong. All part of the PC "no fault" brigade where every problem is the fault of someone else because they are "tolerant" of the intolerant...

Let's see what today's results bring. Either today or in the morning. I know the EU is trending right, but is, generally, not tending to more racism with it. This will be an interesting picture as it won't help FN in France as much as people might think.

AS I see it, the EU countries are voting for more nationalism in their EU parliament. Laudable but stupid. The Commission and, especially the Council, are appointed by the governments in power. So to have "real" change in the EU, you have to vote in a Nationalist local government.

The only people who truly "get" the EU are the great political pandits in Brussels and the power mongers in national politics. They don't want that knowledge to get out and will use any means to ensure it. Especially branding Nationalism as racist. They don't want "Nationalism" as they have already disbanded the "Nations" with the Lisbon treaty. Nothing which threatens that will be allowed to happen.

But very few ever think of this when voting for their "Nation" which is actually, now, a state of the EU.

[KateLMead]

Well Farage did well as expected . Congratulations to him and his crew. The Pro Europe Miliband has not shown his face too much, he has left others to boost their results such as they were. London voting Labour was fore gone conclusion.
Ming Campbell looking sick as a parrot praised Clegg giving him his utmost verbal support not to resign, but he had to do that didn't he? What a humiliation for the party. We are not alone in our disquiet throughout Europe, Marie LePenn, France, Denmark, Greece, Spain, results described as an earthquake.not too much on Germany.
Britain has all but drowned in that "earthquake" of despair, give UKIP a chance to see whether Whether they can get their life boats into action and save this country before it goes under. If not a Farage voter let us now see the direction, and the priorities of the three major parties henceforth who have been all talk no action.
Farage talked of the number of arrests for crimes within Westminster over the past few months these included paedophilia.

Perhaps all parties should scrutinise their own ranks before screaming abuse at UKIP, and do as he has done when they come to light "get rid of them"

[Suff]

Hungary too Kate, right and far right. Hungary has a right wing parliament and is becoming more and more euroskeptic.

The vote too. 18% in Czech Republic, 13% in Slovenia. Only in the European countries doing well did the vote tend to support the status quo.

The Danish vote is particularly interesting. That party is Islamophobic. Racist in other words. Yet it topped the vote in openly tolerant Denmark. But, the Danes, as ever, are not afraid to speak their minds. They are intolerant of intolerance itself and therefore able to vote for a party which is also intolerant of Islamic isolationist and "supremacy". More interestingly, wherever Denmark leads, Sweden tends to follow. The Swede's are more placid and less volatile than the Danes, yet they are also slow to anger and utterly implacable when they do.

I was watching the BBC coverage last night and it says it all for me. Every party blamed the BBC for biased coverage except for Labour. Only the foreign members of the "panel" at the table even knew that Marine Le Pen has a stated goal of pulling France out of the European "project" and to repatriate powers to France that Brussels has taken to itself.

Talk about a UK centric view of the world with no knowledge of how the rest of the EU works. I did see a remarkable amount of clarity on what change this would make in the EU itself. The most prescient saying "essentially nothing". Which is pretty much how it is. The bigger threat is to the electoral chances of the incumbent governments/presidents in the countries which went hard right. That might force some changes at the Council and Commission level.

As for Germany? A bit of a contrast. On one side the incuments did fairly well. On the other side, they appeared to be on to elect their first Neo Nazi MEP..... For anyone who does not know Germany well, this might be a surprise.

[TheOstrich]

There is a kind of peasants’ revolt going on, a jacquerie. From Dublin to Lublin, from Portugal to Pomerania, the pitchfork-wielding populists are converging on the Breydel building in Brussels – drunk on local hooch and chanting nationalist slogans and preparing to give the federalist machinery a good old kicking with their authentically folkloric clogs.

There are Greek anti-capitalists and Hungarian neo-fascists and polite German professors who want to bring back the Deutschemark. They are making common cause with Left-wing Italian comedians and Right-wing Dutch firebrands and the general slogan is simple: down with technocracy, down with bureaucracy, and give power back to the people!



http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blo ... ry-uk-live (08:28)

This from the scion of metropolitan elite, Boris Johnson. Yep, he sure knows how to ingratiate himself with the population outside London, doesn't he, branding 28% of the voters as clog-wielding, drunken, peasants. Fire up the tractor, let's storm the citadel.

Tory Buffoon.