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Re: Why 'king bother?

Postby Oojamaflip » 05 Apr 2013, 15:33

shazsha wrote:Glasgow LA will not be the only ones who have to spend money on buying one bedroom properties.


I can remember way, way back at school doing a project in biology about the growth in population, and some article predicting that in 20xx each person would have only the space of a broadsheet newspaper to live in (or something along those lines). The cost of land in this finite space of ours doesn't make it financially viable to build one bedroomed properties unless it's in blocks of flats. Blocks of one bedroomed containers: like battery hens. Just horrible!

I'm glad to read that pensioners will not be hit with the bedroom tax.

Fugitive wrote:It is a mess. . . .

I hope it isn't another Poll Tax rebellion because I was and still am a supporter of the Poll Tax as Council Tax based on the value of the house is plain wrong.


I agree.
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Re: Why 'king bother?

Postby cruiser2 » 05 Apr 2013, 18:17

Like rodo we fortunately own our house. We sleep in seperate rooms as I snore and mrs.e sometimes has problems with her legs. Also I can get up early to go to the gym without disturbing her.
I agree that this tax or reduction in benefit has not been planned correctly. Instead of asking each council how many single bedroom apartments they had and how many single tenants they had. Just decided to reduce benefit for persons with a bedroom which is not in constant use.
Off subject, but mrs e has just had her monthly payment from a private pension reduced by 50%. Yet there have been no changes to her circumstances. Have phoned the insurance company and they said that many of the pensioners have had the same deduction.
Good job it doesn't affect our day to day living. Nor voting for tory or labour. UKIP if ther is a candidate.
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Re: Why 'king bother?

Postby Kaz » 06 Apr 2013, 07:47

In different circumstances this new Tax would have totally ruined the way my ex and I have co-parented our children since our split. Mick and I have always had what would be deemed' spare' bedrooms, bedrooms only occupied part time, and so has my ex. Luckily we are home owners, but why should the children of poorer parents be penalised this way :?
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Re: Why 'king bother?

Postby Weka » 13 Apr 2013, 08:42

What is this bedroom tax? It sounds very unfair to me. Is this a proposal or a reality?
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Re: Why 'king bother?

Postby Kaz » 13 Apr 2013, 09:10

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Re: Why 'king bother?

Postby Kaz » 13 Apr 2013, 09:12

The problem is Weka there are very few smaller ie one bed flats or houses around so where are people supposed to move to. This is just a way of taking yet more money off the very poor - and yet the very rich are getting huge tax breaks.......

As Shaz said, this is going to be this government's Poll Tax, where there were literally riots in the streets :(
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Re: Why 'king bother?

Postby janiee » 13 Apr 2013, 14:23

Hello its me popping up again lol
I had to go on a training course on the bedroom tax and universal benefit in February and its dreadful some of the stories we are hearing about it! One man who is a carer for his Mum is being hammered with the tax as the council cannot see they need two bedrooms as they are mother and son, because they have the same surname the computer sees them as a married couple :shock: My friend has terminal cancer, her daughter has Downs shes 34 and has always lived with her Mum but because of my friend being ill shes had to get her into supported living 5 days a week and coming home on a weekend, shes done the transition as slowly as possible but not my friend has been hit with the tax and told to pay up or move, she cant afford to pay so will have to move into a one bedroomed flat in a very unsavoury estate in her fragile state of ill health and meanwhile her daughter wont have a bedroom for the weekend when she comes home and will have to sleep on the floor or with her terminally ill Mum :(

The Universal benefit in October will be an absolute shambles, instead of rent now going to landlords and housing ass direct it will go the the claiment so they hit the benefit caps, they then have to pay their own rent from it, the estate behind me has druggies and drunks on and they will get that cash in their hands and immediatly think whoppie doo we have loadsa cash and they will spend it with no thought of the rent, so they will get behind with rent, the councils and housing ass wont have money for repairs for the decent tennanats and then it will cost the councils thousands to take the tenants to court and evict them, they will then move into private rented where rents are higher and be claiming more housing benefit!
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Re: Why 'king bother?

Postby KateLMead » 13 Apr 2013, 14:44

Kaz wrote:They just seem to target the vulnerable at every turn - it's cruel :(


This wont affect these damned politicians, Clegg his millionaire lifestyle and his 20 roomed property in the Swiss Alps..
Cameron.. Harman.. Balls... Blair's missus, all those fat cats on every side of Westminster.. Labour. Conservative, Liberal's the lot of them need throwing out onto the Scrap Heap.
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Re: Why 'king bother?

Postby cruiser2 » 13 Apr 2013, 15:08

About two miles from where we live they want to build over 200 new houses. The road system is already overloaded as it is in a small town, near a motorway junction. In the morning rush hour the queue into the big town can stretch into the smaller subarb.
Why not buils one bedroomed apartments for those that need them. But then the builders wouldn't make much profit.
This reduction in benefit, to give the correct title is a rushed job and will be the downfall of the Tories.
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Re: Why 'king bother?

Postby janiee » 13 Apr 2013, 15:58

They are building 200 houses here as well, right by a factory and a busy road thats congested at the best of times, what I wonder is seeing as our local schools are over subscribed where will the children of these new houses go? They dont build more schools to compensate for the influx of new housing
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