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Re: The Sun Newspaper

Postby Aggers » 27 Jul 2015, 10:44

Workingman wrote:
Aggers wrote:I can confirm that much of what you say is correct.


Which part, John?
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Suff's last post has made the position quite clear, and I agree with everything he has said.
He has summed it up admirably. (Remember, - I was there at the time.) :)
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Re: The Sun Newspaper

Postby Workingman » 28 Jul 2015, 11:31

But what age were you; eight, nine, ten?

How many of today's children of a similar age know about Ukraine?

My father and uncles, all in their early twenties to mid thirties would have known. They would have read the articles in the Times, Telegraph, Guardian, Mail or Mirror. They would have heard things on the BBC news and they would have seen Pathe newsreels at the cinema.

The significance of what was going on in Germany at the time would not have been lost on them.
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Re: The Sun Newspaper

Postby Suff » 28 Jul 2015, 15:48

My Father in Law who was an educated and astute man in his 20's was quite clear about that. They knew that the Nazi's were bad but they had absolutely no clue just how bad they were.

If the press had known, then the educated people would have known too. It's impossible that they could not. Unless the press did not publish for some reason.

If the people had known it is inconceivable that they would have accepted "Peace in our time" given the known price of that peace, or even trusted that that peace could hold.
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Re: The Sun Newspaper

Postby Workingman » 28 Jul 2015, 17:24

I am being misunderstood somewhat.

I am of an age when WWI, WWII and the inter-war years were taught in history lessons. I remember us marching down to the school cinema where Ms Hartley would load up the projector and we would watch archive material from the time.

I can remember Pathe newsreels being shown in cinemas. I distinctly remember the spinning front pages of newspapers that eventually stopped at an angle to show the headlines; "Hitler made Chancellor", "Reichstag Fire", "Hitler in his Staff Car", "Nuremburg Rallies", and so on. There were images of Brownshirts and Hitler Youth dancing round piles of burning books and those of Jews boarding ships to escape, and also Jewish shops painted with the Star of David.

I am not at all saying that people 'knew' war was inevitable. What I am saying is that there was a sense of apprehension about what 1933 could portend and that the people recognised it.
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Re: The Sun Newspaper

Postby Diflower » 28 Jul 2015, 18:20

My dad was born in 1933.
His father died when he was seven, but when I was learning all about Hindenberg, and Hitler's rise to power, at school, he said his father had told him that he reckoned the first World war (which he'd fought in) was going to be repeated and that Hitler was someone to be frightened of, not mocked.

He remembered him seeing a group of Dad's little friends doing the salute and laughing, and telling Dad that it was wrong, because people weren't taking him (Hitler) seriously...but then he was probably a bit more intelligent than some of the Royal family ;)
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Re: The Sun Newspaper

Postby Suff » 29 Jul 2015, 09:15

This is pretty much what I was saying. British people treated the Nazi salute with derision.

After all we had defeated them in WW1 and we were the British Empire.

Evicting the jews was one thing. Treating them like vermin to be exterminated and like a slave workforce was something entirely different.
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