As the impact of Brexit sinks in
Posted: 11 Jul 2016, 13:31The message changes......
So we're an insignificant little "england" with small caps and we'd become as significant in the world as Guernsey and we'd be massively less secure in such a hostile world if we left.
As you all know I laughed at such complete and utter idiocy and pointed it out as a total lie being put about by people who were not sure enough of their argument to actually tell the truth to people.
As the vote is now finished and it's clear that they failed to scare enough people everyone who wants to talk about the aftermath can get back to telling the truth again...
Sputnik is interesting. This is a Russian news organisation which is talking about the good reasons for Sweden to Join NATO. The important point for me is
These were the words of Estonia's Stockholm-born president Toomas Hendrik Ilves. Funny I didn't notice him talking about anything like that prior to the vote. In fact the EU were trying to convince the UK that we'd be adrift in the world, unprotected without the EU. In fact the opposite is actually true. A very large chunk of the EU military capability just started the walk out of the door.
However on a more Ally related post in the Washington Post.
Which has a rather stunning statement that
Yes that did say that the UK had one of NATO's most capable militaries.
However the more interesting thing about this article was that the biggest threat to NATO in Europe was Germany itself.
I'm not particularly feeling I've been lied to. For me Brexit was all about an undemocratic EU and the federalisation of Britain into an EU that didn't like us very much, all by the back door.
Talking about immigration was never really the thing, money was always "do you trust the EU or your own government to fund things", rather than how much we would "get back". Yes the ability to "choose" on immigration was high up my priority list. I've always know that Schengen is the model for the EU and that everyone has to take it in the end. All these "opt outs" were never more than a short term (50 - 100 years), stopgap to allow the populations to become desensitised to "Nation" and acclimatised to State.
On the other hand I do wonder how many who preferred Remain are wondering just how much truth they were told. Maybe it's too soon for that. Maybe the financial fiasco they are still creating is too front and centre for the kernel of doubt to surface.
But it will.....
So we're an insignificant little "england" with small caps and we'd become as significant in the world as Guernsey and we'd be massively less secure in such a hostile world if we left.
As you all know I laughed at such complete and utter idiocy and pointed it out as a total lie being put about by people who were not sure enough of their argument to actually tell the truth to people.
As the vote is now finished and it's clear that they failed to scare enough people everyone who wants to talk about the aftermath can get back to telling the truth again...
Sputnik is interesting. This is a Russian news organisation which is talking about the good reasons for Sweden to Join NATO. The important point for me is
"Those who are not members of NATO will be unable to count on an equally high level of protection with the UK out of the EU. Today, Britain remains a formidable military force in the EU,"
These were the words of Estonia's Stockholm-born president Toomas Hendrik Ilves. Funny I didn't notice him talking about anything like that prior to the vote. In fact the EU were trying to convince the UK that we'd be adrift in the world, unprotected without the EU. In fact the opposite is actually true. A very large chunk of the EU military capability just started the walk out of the door.
However on a more Ally related post in the Washington Post.
Which has a rather stunning statement that
At a summit characterized by anxieties over the alliance’s continued unity, few seemed concerned about the post-Brexit contribution to NATO from the U.K., which has one of the alliance’s most capable militaries.
Yes that did say that the UK had one of NATO's most capable militaries.
However the more interesting thing about this article was that the biggest threat to NATO in Europe was Germany itself.
I'm not particularly feeling I've been lied to. For me Brexit was all about an undemocratic EU and the federalisation of Britain into an EU that didn't like us very much, all by the back door.
Talking about immigration was never really the thing, money was always "do you trust the EU or your own government to fund things", rather than how much we would "get back". Yes the ability to "choose" on immigration was high up my priority list. I've always know that Schengen is the model for the EU and that everyone has to take it in the end. All these "opt outs" were never more than a short term (50 - 100 years), stopgap to allow the populations to become desensitised to "Nation" and acclimatised to State.
On the other hand I do wonder how many who preferred Remain are wondering just how much truth they were told. Maybe it's too soon for that. Maybe the financial fiasco they are still creating is too front and centre for the kernel of doubt to surface.
But it will.....