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But the Telegraph seems to agree with me.

It may be so Suff, but if the Labour party is being taken over by Socialist Worker types it can only be because the old Labour party is just about as dead as a doornail now, so you get the left and right of the party scrapping over who owns the brand name "Labour".

After Blair, Brown and Miliband I don't really know what the Labour party is for any more, what it stands for, what it intends to do. As a young man I was a Labour voter but the calibre of their leaders has been on a downward path since John Smith died and none of the current candidates looks likely to change that.

There may well be some observers to whom the ferocity of opposition to Corbyn among his own MPs is perplexing. Sure, he’s not exactly prime ministerial material and he’s a bit of a Lefty, certainly compared to his predecessors. But election results, poor as they have been, haven’t proved conclusively that Labour’s heading for extinction on his watch.

And for ever so many people that single paragraph will be the most important one in the whole article.

Predictions of Labour's demise have been a shade premature. How it develops under Corbyn is unknown, but it is not going away.

It doesnt have to be extinguished at the next election. It just has to extinguish the careers of enough MPs, or threaten to, in order to tear the party asunder. ...

Just read the comments of the prominent Blairites....

Prominent Blairites.... the most despised people in the Labour party. Through their incompetence they gifted Cameron two terms as Prime Minister. When Miliband resigned it was three prominent Blairites who got trounced by the largely unknown Corbyn for the leadership. Blairites, prominent or not, are yesterday's people and the vast majority of Labour, or Labour leaning, voters want to see the back of them.

Who cares if the people hate them or not? Not all of them are tarred with the brush but if they see that they are all going to be either deselected or going to lose their seats, then they're going to do everything they can to hang on and if that means tearing the party to shreds, publicly, then they'll do it.

Yes Labour will survive. But so did the Lib Dems.... 5m votes, 5 seats...

Right now I'm hoping that Corbyn and his assasnicks keep it up big time because the war it will start is going to be huge. Already the party is in the courts over two decisions, that's going to blight everything.

Personally I believe it's finally time for Labour to be buried in it's coffin and a much more pragmatic party to take it's place. One which is in tune with the economy, the people and the country. Britain is no longer the country of the Miners who went on strike whilst our drafted soldiers were being killed in a war on three fronts. Many of the unemployed families are better off than the miners were then. Yes there are people who really, really, need support. But it needs to come from a strong economy which is more fairly shared out. Not from thousands of quangos for money for hangers on and party corruption and voting for donkeys.

If Labour destroys itself I see that as a vacuum and an opportunity. I won't be crying any kind of tears, even crocodile one's.

cromwell wrote:
After Blair, Brown and Miliband I don't really know what the Labour party is for any more, what it stands for, what it intends to do. As a young man I was a Labour voter but the calibre of their leaders has been on a downward path since John Smith died and none of the current candidates looks likely to change that.

That sums up exactly how I feel. The Labour Party has never been the same since Blair entered the scene.

Now I don't know who to vote for - and at my age that doesn't really matter, does it?