Vocal Voices

I am happy about this, decisions to care for and accommodate these young and little ones has been ignored for far too long. Imagine if our young were placed in such a position, fleeing Britain, drowning, dependent on anyone who will care for them living in squalor, hungry, open to abuse, it's estimated there are 4,000 of them abandoned. Put them before adults and open our doors as well as our hearts and save these innocents. Talk about "The sins of the fathers".

Well I'm not happy, not at all. Half of these "children" are actually young men in their late teens and early twenties!

I'm also not happy because these will become "anchor babies". In other words once dear little Ahmet has been taken in, fed, housed, clothed and educated at the expense of the British taxpayer, you can bet your bottom dollar that the human rights vultures (aka lawyers) will be braying on the door demanding that dear little Ahmed's mum, dad, brothers, sisters, grannie and grandad and uncle Tom Bl**dy Cobley should also be allowed entry and similarly looked after using "family re-unification" as a reason.

Well,sod the lot of them. I wouldn't let one in. The idea that a three year old child can travel unaccompanied fro Afghanistan is a joke anyway.

These people will tell any lie to get their feet under the table; and they could play the violin as long as they liked, I still wouldn't let one in.

You won't be so happy Kate when 10 adults for every child turn up demanding and getting, every service and benefit the country possesses. Then, for now, we won't be able to get them out either.

Most of these children have been sent specifically for this purpose and the traffickers have been well paid to make sure they make it.

None. Not one. Not any.

The media misrepresentation of this subject borders on the illegal. If such misrepresentation took place in other fields, such as advertising, the work would be taken down and fines issued. The BBC is one of the worst culprits.

Today's article specifically headlines "children". The main picture is of two toddlers, one on a bike, the other clutching something. It goes on to inform us that 4,000 of these unaccompanied or "lone" children are seeking asylum in the UK. A link to another article shows another toddler on a railway line at dusk/dawn clutching two dollies. She is also seeking asylum.

It is only once the psychological effect of tugging at heart strings has been accomplished by the pictures that we are informed that the issue is actually of 'minors' - those under 18 - and that "some" of them are as young as 12 or 13: mainly boys.

Well excuse me, but if the media luvvies are going to cynically use images of toddlers who would no know the meaning of the words 'asylum' and 'refugee' in order to meet their agenda, then I am going to be implacably against that agenda and tell them to "sod off".

I am not talking about sixteen year plus, I am talking about "Children" little ones, even those being used to get to UK are not responsible for the actions of their keepers..I cannot stand to see the misery, maybe I am influenced by our own daughter, abandoned at birth in a public hospital, "starved". She with the other abandoned babies had survived on rice water, the water that the rice was cooked in, no milk, no food, no vitamins...weighing just over 7lbs at the age of one year,. We fed her and the other abandoned little ones along with three who sadly died..They had Never been held, they lay on a dirty piece of ticking on the floor, drinking from an unsavoury plastic bottle, My little Harry was adopted by a woman who lost her own baby, I never stop thinking about him, and another two who were adopted. I cannot get the suffering of these "
little ones" abandoned in Europe out of my mind confused frightened who are depending on those around them for food and comfort.

But Kate, where does "children" begin and end?

There isn't a 'lone' child on the planet under their teen years who could make it truly unaccompanied from Africa, the Middle East or Asia to the UK. Even some in their mid-teens would find it almost impossible.

We are being held to ransom by the traffickers and the liberal media to take in these poor unfortunates because they are supposedly alone and uncared for. If that really was the case they would not make it to the end of their street never mind Calais. They are being used as pawns.

I would not mind so much if we were to take them in, make sure they were fit and well, and then return them home, but that will never happen.

In short, Kate, when you dig deep enough, as WM and I do, you find that the numbers of unaccompanied "children", by your definition, we are talking about, are in the tens, not even in the hundreds. You will find, if you dig deep enough, that all of them are from parents who died on the way.

These numbers of thousands we keep getting thrown at us for unaccompanied "children" are for trafficked boys (mainly), in their mid to late teens or in their 20's but lying about it.

I'm with WM and Crommers. None. Note one single one. Because those who lost their parents should have been put in care during their trek over Europe or should be in care in France now.

NOT ONE and I really mean that.

Kate - I understand how you feel, and I don't in any way reproach you for what you have said.

But (and it's a big but) you are really only playing into the hands of the unscrupulous villains who are
motivated by the money they make in the trafficking of these pitiful victims. The problems that may
result if we respond favourably to these requests will cause, perhaps, terrible consequences to happen
to our own youngsters in future years.

What Suff has just said is quite right, in my opinion.

No No No Never!!!!!

AggersAgain wrote:Kate - I understand how you feel, and I don't in any way reproach you for what you have said.

But (and it's a big but) you are really only playing into the hands of the unscrupulous villains who are
motivated by the money they make in the trafficking of these pitiful victims. The problems that may
result if we respond favourably to these requests will cause, perhaps, terrible consequences to happen
to our own youngsters in future years.

What Suff has just said is quite right, in my opinion.

The crazy fact is that thousands upon thousands of males are allowed into Germany, UK and other countries, sadly without question, however when it comes to children, (and I am not talking about 16 yard 17 year old boys these would be included in training). I would bring back National Service train these youngsters to return to their countries as a military force, three years training barrack to live in this would sort the wheat from the chaff.