Looking in the wrong place?

[Workingman]

New debris from the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has been found off Tanzania. This adds to other pieces found on Reunion, Madagascar, Comoros and Mozambique. All of these places are in the western Indian ocean. They are all roughly south of a line of 231º, the plane's last known heading when just off Sumatra, Indonesia. The Maldives, where there was thought to be a sighting of what was possibly MH370, are also along this line.

At the time of its disappearance there was speculation that it could have been hijacked. I remember posting that this could be a new venture for the Pirates of Somalia as this would be on that heading.

Now, we know that the search has been carried out off Australia and that computer models suggest that currents could have taken debris from there, but there has no even been a hint of a crash site. I have never been convinced, and with the search due to be called off at the end of the year I am more certain than ever that the search has been carried out in the wrong place.

[victor]

quite agree Frank and for a very good reason i suspect.

Pirates of Somalia? are they still in business ,never see any press reports on them now

[Workingman]

Vic, the pirates have been subdued for quite some time thanks to the intervention of navies from arounfd the world, but at the time they were at their height.

quite agree Frank and for a very good reason i suspect.

I am not usually one for conspiracy theories but I have to admit that the question has been nagging at me for a very long time. Every so often there is a shooting star of information released, usually about the cockpit crew. Then and without any follow-up it all goes quiet again.

[Suff]

There was that one photo released by a noted conspiracy blogger containing GPS co-ordinates which point to Diego Garcia. Interestingly nobody ever talked about which network it was on when it was sent (classic give away and embedded when sent). Just like many of the "unexplained" bits of 9/11, it could so easily be disproved by revealing what network the message was sent from.

I did some checking and there is a mobile network on D/G.

It would be classic wouldn't it. Given that the transponder was switched off (not changed to 7500 which would squawk hijack). Not much has been said about the fact that the ACARS in flight data feed was switched off. This is something which requires a lot of technical expertise and something I'm sure most airlines don't teach their pilots as they won't want it turned off.

For instance the reason they knew so much about the Air France Airbus which went down in the Atlantic, with near location etc, was because of it's ACARS system.

Anyone who wanted the plane to vanish needed access to several pieces of information. How to switch off the transponder, how to switch off ACARS, where satellite coverage was at what time, what land based radar installations are located where and what signal return they get without a transponder return.

Sounding like a terrorist event? It is a hell of a lot harder than most would think for a plane of this type to just up and vanish, especially where it was and how it could be monitored.

[Workingman]

The Diego Garcia thing is a bit problematic.

It is true that it is not far off the 231º heading. It is also south and west of the Maldives where the plane was last reportedly "seen". However, it is highly visible to satellites, even Google maps has it shown clearly. There have never been any reports of the plane ever being there. And if it had somehow got there keeping it a secret from an itinerant population of some 4,000 souls falls into the same category as the Moon landings being filmed in Hollywood studios.

When it comes to the transponder and ACARS turning them off is not as difficult as the media made out. They are cockpit actions capable of being carried out by the cockpit crew. The only "specialist" knowledge, as proclaimed by the media, is what pilots are trained in.

Then, only a few days ago, scorched and smoke damaged panel pieces were found on Madagascar. These hint to an on-board fire of some sort. Whether that fire was accidental or deliberate is open to debate, but when all things are put together it begins to look as though MH370 was downed deliberately and in a different place from the "official" search area.

[Suff]

There are no geosynchronous satellites over DG that I know of and DG was depopulated back in the 60's/70's and there have been numerous attempts to get them back. The 2000 decision by the High Court, to allow them to return, was overridden by orders in council, royal prerogative organised by Blair to forever ban the Chagosians from returning. In 2006 the High Court overturned that. In 2008 the lords overturned the High Court 2006 ruling and reaffirmed the orders in council. This was upheld again in 2016 by the UK supreme court. Even the ECHR did not rule on it, stating that it was not in their jurisdiction.

Today the 4,500 islanders remain deported and living in Mauritius.

So, so long as the plane flew in the satellite black zones and landed at night with the base personnel kept away, then there is no reason why it could not have happened. I'm not saying it categorically did, but the wreckage is coming from somewhere around there and that little niggle won't go away.

Interestingly there's a lot of talk in some press, at the moment, that Putin has satellite and Elint evidence regarding 9/11 which he intends to release shortly. That would create total havoc in the US elections and could, possibly, sweep Trump into power.

There is a lot of stuff that goes on in this world that is kept secret from us.

[Workingman]

I was not talking about the Diego Garcians, I was talking about the ever changing 'population' of military personnel from the US, and some from the UK, on the naval base and also those on the strangely named 'Diego Garcia International Airport'.

To cover up the abduction or shooting down of an international airliner from DC would be impossible. The shooting down is especially implausible as the skies are being watched 24/7 by any number of satellites from any number of countries as well as commercial and the airline industry's own trackers - no geosynchronous ones needed.

What niggles with me is why the area off Australia was chosen as the main search area when there was not a jot of evidence of the plane coming down there. The timing and direction of the possible sightings over the Maldives from different islands and islanders who had never met, but whose accounts were similar, fitted perfectly with the last known heading of 231º, yet they were always shrugged off. The trail of wreckage from Reunion to the east coast of Africa also fits the heading.

I smell something, but I do not know what it is.

[Suff]

If you have something to hide, create a plausible story to look somewhere else then keep everyone looking VERY hard....