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The shadow of fear

PostPosted: 13 Dec 2016, 18:24
by Suff
Or a prudent step?

The moment Trump won the US presidency the climate scientists and climate lobbyists set out to protect the vast wealth of climate data which is housed in the US. Essentially their goal is to copy everything to public servers where it is open to the public before Trump takes office.

Paranoia? Well one Scientist says that there is no need to destroy these data. Just to prevent future data capture and the datasets will be broken and of significantly less use.

Leaves me in a bit of a cleft stick. First I think Trump is needed to check the rise of insidious back door power plays by people who walk the corridors of power in the dark with a dark cloak on.

Second I know that Trump will cause total havoc in the attempts to reign in our input to human driven Climate Change.

In the end I have to take a stand. Logic tells me we are already so far beyond screwed on the climate front that even 8 years of Trumpism won't damage things that much, just usher in a slightly earlier collapse. I'll still be dead and my grandkids will still be dealing with it.

So, in the end, I have to resign myself to Trump mayhem and hope that what balances out on the other side is worth it.

Re: The shadow of fear

PostPosted: 13 Dec 2016, 18:54
by Workingman
I tend to agree.

Putting the data in the public domain should have been done ages ago, so if Trump is the catalyst that is a good thing. The second thing I am hoping is that having a a denier (deniers) in charge in the US the debate will open up, and a I mean really open up, with both sides going nose to nose in public. At present too much is done in the back rooms and under that dark cloak you mention, Suff.

I also think that we are so screwed that in the grand scheme of things eight years of Trump is no more than a blip. We are already so far behind that a few more years is not such a big deal. My children and grandchildren are already at the point of having to make the decisions my generation refuses to even talk about.

Re: The shadow of fear

PostPosted: 13 Dec 2016, 23:50
by Suff
Yes if it forces the debate out into the open that can only be good. When Michael Mann stood up to Bush it really put the thing out there. At that time people were still in the mode of not believing. Today that is a much harder position to hold.