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All of a dither

PostPosted: 17 Jan 2017, 17:56
by Workingman
May comes out with a 12 point plan that looks like a hardish Brexit and all of one sudden the pro-Brexit commentators are up in arms and bleating: 'We need this, we want that, we must have the other'.

The plan:
1) Certainty and clarity:

PM says that she can confirm today the Govt will put the final deal to a vote in Parliament (she had previously refused to be drawn on this)
2) End to jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice

Our laws interpreted in courts across this country, not in Luxembourg. Until we are free from ECJ, she says, we will not have left EU.
3) Secure the union

Theresa May stresses importance of union but says foreign affairs the responsibility of UK Government.
4) Maintain common travel area with Ireland

There will always be a special relationship between us and we will work to deliver a practical solution as soon as we can for retaining border
5) Control of immigration

PM: "We will have control of the number of people coming to Britain from the EU."
6) Guarantee the rights of EU nationals

May says rights of EU citizens in UK and British citizens in EU must be resolved as soon as possible.
7) Protect and maintain workers rights

She says rights already under EU law will be maintained and even built on.
8) Build a truly global Britain

PM says we will build a country reaching out to new friends and old.
9) Bold free trade deal with EU: not membership of the single market

PM: "What I am proposing cannot mean membership of the single market."
10) Science and innovation

May says UK has a proud history of leading cutting edge advances and should remain at forefront of this.
11) Security and terrorism

May says we will retain links with Europe on sharing intelligence information to help counter "threats to our common security".
12) There will be a transitional phase

May says there will be a transitional phase but "permanent political purgatory would not be good for Britain or the EU"

Get over yourselves, it is something like what Brexiters voted for.

May hasn't quite gone far enough for me. She should have said: We trigger A50 by the end of March, then we are out come April the 1st. After that, and with our blessed sovereignty back, is when we negotiate deals.

Never mind, inflation is up, import costs are up, manufacturing costs are up.... we'll be fine, Brexitopia is just around the corner.

Re: All of a dither

PostPosted: 18 Jan 2017, 08:33
by Suff
Well she did say one thing and that one thing alone has bounced the £ back up several %. She said "No deal is better than a bad deal".

It's clear that the markets had been looking at the court challenges and Blair and others trying to derail the exit from the EU. That simple statement means that if the EU do not come up with a reasonable deal, the UK will exit without the Government having put any deal to parliament.

I don't think MP's have actually worked this out yet. Once A50 is triggered we are out in 2 years, deal or not and May has just said she won't entertain a bad deal which means she won't accept one so the parliament won't have to vote on it.

Some point in the future this will sink in to the conscience of the Remain press.

One thing that the Remain press need to "get over" is the whole trade deal thing. The need to start telling the truth. Which is we can't _SIGN_ a trade deal till after we leave. But we can _NEGOTIATE_ one, or more and we most certainly will. We can sign them the day after we leave.