The farce rolls on

[Suff]

Now we have a mix of UK and non UK nationals going to court to try and force the government to rule on the EEA act.

If the courts don't stop this by throwing it out, we'll be tied up for a decade and we'll have a UKIP government before we know it.

[AliasAggers]

I'm sick and tired of all this business.

I thought it was "government of the people, by the people, for the people".

Well, we've had a referendum and the people have made their decision.

Why, then, do we allow all this bantering? We should get on with the job, and those MPs and officials who
do not like it should clear off and get other employment (if they can) or accept the decision and shut up.
In my opinion they are asking for trouble - trouble of a most unpleasant kind.
(and I'm beginning to hope they do).

(afterthought) Perhaps we need someone like Trump?

[Suff]

(afterthought) Perhaps we need someone like Trump?

More likely the risk is we get a PM like Farage....

There is no need for this. The courts, the government, they just need to accept the decision and move on. When people who don't like that decision pop up and try to twist our legal system to subvert the decision of the people, they should be slapped down and slapped down hard.

Honestly I don't understand the Government right now. None of the bodies who ruled on the challenge have any jurisdiction over the Lisbon Treaty. The Government should make that plain. The Lisbon Treaty gives the PM, in office, the sole right and the sole responsibility to trigger A50. This treaty is a superset of UK law and UK government, the UK courts can't rule on it now it is signed and ratified. By ratifying the Lisbon Treaty the UK government, themselves, gave sole right and responsibility to May to trigger A50.

If they want to overturn that they would have to repeal the UK act which enacted the Lisbon Treaty in UK law.

Chances of doing that? Cat in hells chance!

[edit]

It seems they updated the European Communities act to incorporate the Lisbon Treaty which then incorporated it into UK law.

This makes a total nonsense of this case being brought to court. It is the EC 1972 act which confers the "right" to withdraw from the EU on the PM and the PM alone. Claiming that there needs to be a vote on repealing the EC act when the EC act itself confers that right to repeal itself, is total nonsense.

[Workingman]

“The remainers and the soft Brexiteers will join forces. There may have to be a general election. Those who lost the argument on membership of the EU will fight tooth and claw to keep us in the single market.”

In his dreams. There are plenty of Remainers, like myself, who now want full Brexit; and officially there is no such thing as a 'soft Brexiteer'. The Electoral Commission changed the wording of the referendum to Remain or Leave in order to make it clear to both sides what they were voting for.

Leave won, we now need to get on with it.

[Suff]

So perhaps there is a message for the courts today.

"Don't get involved in politics".

Two paragraphs saying only one thing. "I have the Power to trigger A50". The point the courts claimed was not true and demanded that Parliament waste inordinate amounts of time to prove.

More than a hundred amendments. Every single one struck down. Broad consensus in parliament that the people have spoken and it's about time they got on with doing what the people have directed.

I'm not sure that the legal challenges are all over yet, but one thing, I believe, is now clear. Our people spoke and or politicians are in receipt of the "shock and awe" of that voice. Nobody who's constituency voted to leave is going to try and scupper that leave vote. It is a one way trip to an election loss. For Labour it is a one way trip to a real presence in Parliament for UKIP and they won't risk that.

Yes the HOL may try and modify it. But then again they may not. Not when they know that the government will bring it back into debates, refuse any changes and turn it back around in 2 weeks to the HOL again without any changes. At that point the HOL is going to face reality and have to either approve as it stands, with no modifications, or accept that they can only delay this thing for another month or more.

In some ways I hope that the HOL do try and modify it. Because when it comes back again unmodified, the people of the UK may actually realise how our government works. That can only be a good thing.

[medsec222]

I see Tulip Sidddiq was hand-wringing after the vote last time. Apparently she is very worried for the state of the country now. Well over 17 million of us voted leave and we want to get on with it. This is how it is and we need to pull together.