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Excellent Analysis

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2017, 11:14
by Suff
Or blindingly obvious?

The author makes some excellent points.

The record of Britain’s Labour leader is worse than dismal. No one imagines him as prime minister — not even, probably, Mr Corbyn.

Labour was always going to have problems during this parliament, not least because of the dreadful legacy of its last leader Ed Miliband who led it to needless defeat at the 2015 election. Mr Corbyn has since transformed a difficult position into a desperate one.

Mr Corbyn’s career has been lived on the far left fringes of politics, where ideological orthodoxy comes well ahead of a serious desire to wield power. He has never forgiven Tony Blair for winning three elections.

Mr Corbyn said he backed Remain. And then did nothing to prove the point


Some say Mr Corbyn’s weakness has left Mrs May one of the most powerful prime ministers of modern times. In matters European, the reverse is true. The absence of a credible opposition has left the prime minister a prisoner of those on her own side set on severing all ties with their own continent


I must admit almost all of that was predictable when he won the leadership.

I think the most relevant parallel with recent "common sense", or lack of it, decisions would be by calling him, not Mr Corbyn, but Labour McLabourFace.

Re: Excellent Analysis

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2017, 12:10
by Workingman
The article is behind a paywall so unable to be read. However, coming from the FT it is probably penned by some Capitalist economist.

The clue is in the last quote:
Some say Mr Corbyn’s weakness has left Mrs May one of the most powerful prime ministers of modern times. In matters European, the reverse is true. The absence of a credible opposition has left the prime minister a prisoner of those on her own side set on severing all ties with their own continent.


May is hoist by Cameron's petard, she is a prisoner of the result of his referendum. Leavers won and they are getting what they voted for despite the best efforts of some Remainers.

Also, if he or she cannot differentiate between the continent of Europe and the EU then I do not see much point in giving any of their other opinions the time of day.

Re: Excellent Analysis

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2017, 13:08
by Suff
Workingman wrote:Leavers won and they are getting what they voted for despite the best efforts of some Remainers.


For some it really may be "be careful what you wish for as it may come to pass".

For others it is really a case of not going fast enough or hard enough for them.

Re: Excellent Analysis

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2017, 19:34
by Workingman
My wishes will not come to pass as I voted to remain.

So I am now full speed ahead with what Leavers thought they voted for - out of the EU, out of the single market, sovereignty of the UK restored, bent bananas, straight cucumbers and fewer Johnny foreigners.

It is not what the Capitalists want, but it is what the majority voted for - or is it?

Re: Excellent Analysis

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2017, 19:46
by Suff
Well whatever they thought they were voting for, Corbyn did a stellar job of explaining the alternatives....

Not!

Re: Excellent Analysis

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2017, 21:13
by Workingman
It wasn't Corbyn's job, it was the job of the whole Remain team, and they spectacularly failed.

Let us not forget that it was Cameron and Osborne who started 'Project Fear', Hague was unheard and our new PM, Mrs May, was lukewarm, to say the least.

They all failed to effectively challenge the spurious claims of Leave - collective failure. It was not a one man campaign.

We now look to be getting out of the EU based on the choice of one word, 'Leave' and the interpretation of what that means to those in power when compared to the actual 'Leave' vote. If Leavers do not like it then let them get out on the streets and protest... or shut up and accept the outcome. That is what we Remainers are told to do.