Vocal Voices

The sentences were handed down to 16 men of Pakistani origin for various offences, including multiple rapes, on 15 young white girls. Four other men have yet to be sentenced.

The offences took place over a period of seven years and the local feeling is that 15 girls is just the tip of the iceberg. A lot of people think those victims were chosen by the police to secure some serious convictions and sentencing, but that the total number could be far higher.

It could also be the case that West Yorkshire police be investigated over its handling of the case. It is another one of those where victims were not listened to (allegedly) and the abuse was allowed to go on longer and wider than it should have.

A spot-on summary, WM.

I cannot begin to describe how angry this has made me. And I don't want to hear another bleat from anyone, anywhere about integration and community cohesion.

If I heard correctly on the BBC News, this could have been sorted back in 2004. Like the South Yorkshire Police, the West Yorkshire Police Force must be held to account for their failures.

I feel like writing a very long post about this and I will. Suffice it to say the usual mix of hypocrisy, virtue signalling and outright lies are being deployed by those in authority.
Like Os, I am beyond angry.

You know and I know and so does half the country know that will be very unlikely to result in much being done about it other than lots of hot air and promises ....................".Lessons have been learned " I belive is the usual line trotted out under these situations.

Please excuse me ladies but we are about to be dealt a huge load of bullshit as they all try to evade any responsibility for what went on for years.

We are surrounded by all these wet do gooders who live on cloud nine in their glass houses who have stopped parents chastising their kids etc.

Now their stop this and stop that is coming home to roost in a country where too many are turning blind eyes to the situations around them, teachers cannot punish bad behaviour the police darent lay a finger on these scroats for fear of they themselves being taken to court instead of the criminals.

It has all gone too far it is ruining our country and future generations are growing up with no respect for anything or anyone.

Please excuse my tirade but it makes me so mad that so many cases of abuse or criminality are just "overlooked" and the blind eye is turned.

Manxie xx

Manxie - I quite agree with you.

But I don't agree with some of the stupid laws that have been introduced in this country, which make it a crime to say what you think,
and forbid you from saying anything critical about any people who are not living the sort of life expected of a decent British person.

This is why we need a rope

For child abuse I don't disagree Vic.

There are many reasons why the "grooming gangs" (aka rapists, drug suppliers and child abusers) have gotten away with it for so long.

Number one is the cult of "Diversity". Diversity is great; diversity is wonderful; diversity makes us what we are; there are no downsides to diversity.
That's the official line. Just google "diversity is at the heart of everything we do" and see how many hits you get, most of them from publicly funded bodies. There is no reason ever given as to why diversity is so wonderful, it just is. So to me,diversity is a cult that you have to believe in. Because if you don't, if you challenge diversity in any way in the public service, then your career is dead. Even the accusation of racism can kill a career.

So what happens when it becomes apparent that diversity in the shape of men of Pakistani origin are raping vulmerable white girls? Because that's certainly a downside of diversity, right?
What happened was - it got covered up. The Home Office researcher who was working at Rotherham council and who mentioned that most of the offenders were men of Pakistani origin was screamed at, told she must never mention that again and sent on a "diversity training" course. This was in 2002, her report being drawn up in 2001.

Why was a Home Officer researcher working at Rotherham council? Because the Home Office definitely knew of the problem as long ago as 2001, and very likely long before that.

Politicians knew about the problem then too. a very courageous lady called Ann Cryer, MP for Keighley, raised this issue also in 2002 - and was criticised by her own party for doing so.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... -ann-cryer
To pretend, as that gentleman from Kirklees council did last night on the news that"the problem of child sexual exploitation was not well known about or defined ten years ago" is demonstrably outright rubbish.

Politics has also played a part. In 2004 Channel 4 made a documentary about Asian grooming gangs called Edge of the city.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/ ... adcasting1

The police in West Yorkshire persuaded Channel 4 to delay the showing of the film, fearing that the inflaming of racial tensions. Also the BNP thought the film was a recruiting boost for them - and local politicians did not want that.

Hopefully all the above shows that this problem was known about for years and that it was covered up for years, for many reasons.

Fear of being called "racist" or "Islamaphobic" and having your career ruined if you pursued these allegations.
Politicians not wanting to know about the problems - see Dennis McShane's admssion in the Ann Cryer link,
Fear of right wing parties getting increased support if the extent of the grooming issue was known about. Think on that for a minute; it was thought better to let the rape of vulnerable young white girls continue than to admit to the problem and let the BNP get some more votes.

And the cover up is still going on. In the past Police forces, social services, local councils and local politicians have all known about the problem and covered it up. Now the legal profession is doing it too. The trial in Leeds was conducted under "reporting restrictions" and these restrictions were only lifted when sections of the media challenged them.

It's a long and dirty story and very few people in authority come out of it with any credit. The suppression of the issue for so many years is a national scandal but the type of people responsible for the cover up are still running things, so nothing will get done. And how much of a scandal is that?

Personally, I'm sick and tired of all this bullsh about not being racist.

This is England, where English people live, and if foreigners whom we permit to reside here can't behave themselves,
they should be kicked out. If this attitude is described as racism, so be it. What's wrong with that?
If we had a decent Government that is what would be happening.

But Aggers most of these would have been born here in Britain, where are you going to kick them out to?