On a totally and completely different subject, Tesla
Posted: 24 Oct 2018, 22:08
Reported Q3 earnings tonight.
For those who are not aware, Tesla is the largest manufacturer of plug in electric vehicles in the world. It is a start up company which was boosted to where it is today by CEO (no longer chairman), Elon Musk of SpaceX fame.
As I inhabit climate forums and one of the constant threads on the climate forums is the need to transition to electric from fossil fuelled vehicles, I am intensely interested in Tesla.
The major problem with Tesla is that it is a start up in a world where the incumbents (mainly established before WW1 or just after WW2), are struggling to compete and make money. In the US there has been no new volume vehicle manufacturer in over 100 years. Niche, yes, racing, certainly, mass market vehicles? Not a chance.
This has led short sellers to try and break Tesla by selling its stock short. It didn't help that Musk championed a buy out of SolarCity (of which he was a major shareholder and it was founded by another family member), which pushed Tesla back into debt for at least another 2 years.
Not helped by Musk's Pedo tweet about the UK diver and then followed by him tweeting about Tesla going private. Which is actually SEC fraud. Musk and Tesla were fined £40m and Musk was forced to resign as chairman.
So there has been this raging argument going on about whether Tesla is going to go bust or not. Most of us think not but a few vociferous others have been insisting that Tesla is on the way to Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
You can imagine that I have been waiting rather patiently for these results. Q3 was a watershed moment when Tesla manufactured 80,000 vehicles in a quarter, something it has never done before, mostly Model 3 their (cheaper), mass market vehicle. But what was the profit/loss on that.
Well we got the results today. Tesla, including all one time costs, made an operating profit of $312 million. Shares are rising, short sellers are getting burned and it looks like Tesla will do it again in Q4 with an even larger number of cars manufactured. The difference in profit loss between a year ago is nearly $1bn, on the plus side.
The end of an interesting day.
For those who are not aware, Tesla is the largest manufacturer of plug in electric vehicles in the world. It is a start up company which was boosted to where it is today by CEO (no longer chairman), Elon Musk of SpaceX fame.
As I inhabit climate forums and one of the constant threads on the climate forums is the need to transition to electric from fossil fuelled vehicles, I am intensely interested in Tesla.
The major problem with Tesla is that it is a start up in a world where the incumbents (mainly established before WW1 or just after WW2), are struggling to compete and make money. In the US there has been no new volume vehicle manufacturer in over 100 years. Niche, yes, racing, certainly, mass market vehicles? Not a chance.
This has led short sellers to try and break Tesla by selling its stock short. It didn't help that Musk championed a buy out of SolarCity (of which he was a major shareholder and it was founded by another family member), which pushed Tesla back into debt for at least another 2 years.
Not helped by Musk's Pedo tweet about the UK diver and then followed by him tweeting about Tesla going private. Which is actually SEC fraud. Musk and Tesla were fined £40m and Musk was forced to resign as chairman.
So there has been this raging argument going on about whether Tesla is going to go bust or not. Most of us think not but a few vociferous others have been insisting that Tesla is on the way to Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
You can imagine that I have been waiting rather patiently for these results. Q3 was a watershed moment when Tesla manufactured 80,000 vehicles in a quarter, something it has never done before, mostly Model 3 their (cheaper), mass market vehicle. But what was the profit/loss on that.
Well we got the results today. Tesla, including all one time costs, made an operating profit of $312 million. Shares are rising, short sellers are getting burned and it looks like Tesla will do it again in Q4 with an even larger number of cars manufactured. The difference in profit loss between a year ago is nearly $1bn, on the plus side.
The end of an interesting day.