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Now What?

PostPosted: 15 Jan 2019, 21:34
by Workingman
Two thirds of all MPs reject May's deal, and two fifths of her own party are included in them. 432 noes.

Five weeks wasted and now a no-confidence vote tomorrow.

The EU, in the form of statements from Juncker and Tusk, is now wondering what a positive solution might be, but with little time left to agree it.

There is no support for May's deal, no support for no-deal, no support for ref2, no support for the no-confidence vote, and apparently no support for any other form of Brexit. So what is there support FOR?

Where on earth do we go from here - nobody seems to know?

Re: Now What?

PostPosted: 15 Jan 2019, 21:45
by TheOstrich
Well, assuming May wins the No Confidence vote and remains as Prime Minister, I'd expect her to have to swallow her pride and negotiate a delay to Article 50 and a second referendum, probably in March or April.

And as a result of that, I expect we will stay in the EU.

Re: Now What?

PostPosted: 15 Jan 2019, 21:45
by cromwell
Jacob Rees Mogg explained on Sky tonight that it is written into law that we leave in March. If no deal has been agreed by that point then we leave without a deal.

Other than that either a) Mrs May gets another deal from the EU, probably based around new arrangements for the Irish border or b) Mr Squeaker Bercow invents a new law overnight which says we can't leave.

Re: Now What?

PostPosted: 15 Jan 2019, 21:47
by saundra
So why do we bother to vote MP certainly don't listen to there voters just do what they want

Re: Now What?

PostPosted: 15 Jan 2019, 21:47
by TheOstrich
cromwell wrote:Jacob Rees Mogg explained on Sky tonight that it is written into law that we leave in March.


Laws, however, can be changed, Crommers ........

Re: Now What?

PostPosted: 15 Jan 2019, 21:50
by TheOstrich
saundra wrote:So why do we bother to vote MP certainly don't listen to there voters just do what they want


I don't know how "representative" it is of the folk in this constituency, which vote Leave, but my town's public Facebook page shows a lot of people are pretty unhappy with our Remainer MP.

Re: Now What?

PostPosted: 15 Jan 2019, 21:54
by cromwell
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TheOstrich wrote:
cromwell wrote:Jacob Rees Mogg explained on Sky tonight that it is written into law that we leave in March.


Laws, however, can be changed, Crommers ........


Oh, I'm sure. But in two months? There are about 40 working days in Parliament before the leave date. First you have to raise a statute, then you have to vote on it.
I expect the Head Weasel Mr Bercow and his chum Mr Grieve have some trick up their sleeve though.
Perhaps Mr Bercow will declare himself Queen and use Royal prerogative?

Re: Now What?

PostPosted: 15 Jan 2019, 22:01
by Workingman
cromwell wrote:Jacob Rees Mogg explained on Sky tonight that it is written into law that we leave in March.

Except if we ask to extend A50. If statute is required for that, and it is debatable, then given the mood parliament is in if it would be a walk-through.

Re: Now What?

PostPosted: 15 Jan 2019, 22:07
by cromwell
I don't know how you would go about suspending an existing law.
However as I said, I'm sure Mr Bercow will come up with something.
Legal or not.

Re: Now What?

PostPosted: 15 Jan 2019, 22:12
by Workingman
It is all a mess, and very depressing.

I'm off to bed.