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Postby cromwell » 13 May 2020, 07:56

Liberals will come up with a different theory about the origins of corona virus?
The singer Bryan Adams sent them into meltdown with a rant about its origins yesterday.
Adams wrote: “Tonight was supposed to be the beginning of a tenancy of gigs at the royal albert hall, but thanks to some ****Ing bat eating, wet market animal selling, virus making greedy bastards, the whole world is now on hold, not to mention the thousands that have suffered or died from this virus.

“My message to them other than ‘thanks a ****ing lot’ is go vegan.”

He has since apologised.

Any mention of the virus originating in China sends liberals into meltdown. The concensus being - "You can't say that, it's racist".
Which raises an interesting philosophical point - can the truth be racist? And if the truth is racist (or might be seen to encourage racism) what should we do with that truth?
And the liberal answer to that would be, supress that inconvenient truth.

So I'm just waiting for the new theory to emerge - which it surely will - that new evidence has been found which suggests the origin of covid 19 isn't in China at all.
It will come; give it a couple of weeks.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored" - Aldous Huxley
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Re: I wonder when

Postby medsec222 » 13 May 2020, 08:23

I agree Cromwell. If the virus has come from bats in the Chinese wet markets or has inadvertently been released from a laboratory in Wuhan, we should not be afraid to comment about it for fear of being called racist. Surely it is not the person who makes the comment who needs to apologise.

In the same vein, although not defending Donald Trump for his abruptness, when he responded to the Chinese/American reporter 'to ask China about the deaths in the US', she immediate replied, why ask me? She was inferring that he had made the remark to her because she was of Chinese origin and therefore the remark was racist. I have no doubt that Donald Trump would have responded in the same way to any reporter who asked that question. Because questions need to be asked to the Chinese government, why should those questions be labelled as racist?
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Re: I wonder when

Postby TheOstrich » 13 May 2020, 11:25

Let me explain how I am currently feeling. Racist or not, there needs to be a reckoning with China when this is all over.

If any other country had caused the deaths of 30,000 of our citizens (or 50,000 if you're the BBC or the Gruniad :roll: ), we'd be ostracizing them at a minimum or possibly bombing the hell out of them.

I'm not advocating the latter, but I want to see no free trade arrangement with China, no containership-loads of Christmas tat coming from China, no Chinese students coming over here, and no Chinese involvement in any of our unfrastructure projects whatsoever.

Not everyone will agree with me, I know, but I do feel strongly about this. It cannot be business as before.
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Re: I wonder when

Postby Workingman » 13 May 2020, 11:34

Erm, given that the Chinese have themselves admitted that the virus originated in China then any 'alt' theories can only be of the 'conspiracy' type. Any theory that it did not arise in China can be easily dismissed.

From my philosophical POV the truth is the truth and therefore cannot be an 'ist' an 'ism' or an 'ology'; it is simply the truth. I might add to that the truth is that conspiracy theories appear from the right, left and centre, they do not arise from only one side's group or supporters.

The truth about the virus at the moment is incomplete. However, labs north, south, east and west have all said that it is natural and not man made nor has it been tampered with. What they do not know is where it made the zoonotic jump from (suspected) bats to an intermediary able to pass it on to humans. It is 'thought' that it 'could' have been in the wet market based on circumstantial evidence, but there is no hard proof - not yet.
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