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Track and Trace

PostPosted: 27 May 2020, 17:39
by TheOstrich
Well, having just seen the details of proposed new Track and Trace "operation" coming in from tomorrow, I'm not entirely sure how effective it's going to be.

Firstly it all seems a bit draconian - if you test positive, you will be contacted and told to provide the telephone number and email addy of any person you know you have been contact with.

And that information will be stored where?
And kept for how long?
If you refuse to co-operate, what happens then?
Having named the 10 people you've been in contact with in the office, what about the 500 people you've passed in the street, in the shop, or ridden with on the Underground? Surely the whole exercise is pointless?
Where did this "close proximity for more than 15 minutes" bit come from? I thought the thing transmitted instantaneously?

Secondly, if you're on the list of people to be followed up, you will be getting a telephone call out of the blue and told to self-isolate for 14 days.

How many prank or scam phone calls might that engender?
What happens if you ignore the advice - will they follow you up?

Those are just some of my immediate thoughts.
To be honest, if "The New Norm" is going to be that much hassle, I think I'll just stay in bed!

Re: Track and Trace

PostPosted: 27 May 2020, 18:22
by Workingman
The bit I don't get is that if you are contacted by the tracers / trackers or whatever they are called you have to self-isolate for seven days, but anyone else in your household can roam free unless you show symptoms then you go in lockdown and they have to isolate for 14 days, and so it goes ....

Now that flies in the face of the known fact that some people can pass on the virus if they are a) pre--symptomatic or b) asymptomatic. To find that out for certain everyone in the household would have to be tested daily for at least two weeks, and that is not going to happen.

Re: Track and Trace

PostPosted: 27 May 2020, 18:57
by Kaz
I was talking to D tonight, about this. She says that's how they used to trace TB cases, back in the day!

Re: Track and Trace

PostPosted: 27 May 2020, 19:04
by Workingman
From memory TB wasn't that contagious, well not like Covid.

Just reading comments and about 90% are against this approach mainly due to personal security, scammers and data protection.

Re: Track and Trace

PostPosted: 27 May 2020, 19:47
by Kaz
Oh I do understand the reservations!

Re: Track and Trace

PostPosted: 27 May 2020, 19:54
by medsec222
How many people who may have just got back into employment can afford to self isolate for 14 days. It will be statutory sick pay.

Re: Track and Trace

PostPosted: 27 May 2020, 21:35
by victor
Slightly off topic--
"stay at home as much as you can " what does this mean when---you can go out and exercise as much as you like???????

Re: Track and Trace

PostPosted: 27 May 2020, 22:27
by miasmum
If any of us at work get a ping, that'll be the surgery closed down

Re: Track and Trace

PostPosted: 28 May 2020, 07:22
by Kaz
victor wrote:Slightly off topic--
"stay at home as much as you can " what does this mean when---you can go out and exercise as much as you like???????


Typical mixed messages, causing confusion :roll:

Re: Track and Trace

PostPosted: 28 May 2020, 14:06
by saundra
Well I don't have a smart phone plus I never answer my home phone if I don't know the number
And what if you have been in a shop surrounded by people like my son and partner working in a super store another bright idea hits the dust sigh