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It will apparently be announced in the Queen's Speech that all voters in a GE will need photo ID

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There is more mileage to be had from cracking down on postal voting than from this. It will, as has been said, remove more non Tory voters. Then again in many EU countries you can't vote without photo ID. Granted they mostly have ID cards, but their voter fraud is virtually non existent.

I'm never in favour of insisting on photo ID. There are other ways to do this.

I shan't be voting then, I don't have photo ID

It's a ridiculous idea. It goes against our human rights and civil liberties to prove who we are before we vote - and why do we have to register? We shouldn't even have to visit a polling station or go to the post box. It should be law that we can vote from our sofas using a phone or a tablet or a terminal in a shop.

Stop putting obstacles in our way.

It's a huge can of worms, but it has to be acknowledged that the Electoral Roll system is in itself flawed.

Things like the postal voting system and the ability for one person hand in a number of ballot papers on behalf of other people are an open invitation to fraud, although outside the famous Banana Republic of Birmingham and other dodgy areas, is it that much of a problem?

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/ ... fraud-data

I have also seen a social media post elsewhere, concurrent with this latest election, that a guy turning up at his polling station and giving his name was able to see the electoral roll page the officer was checking him off on, and realised that at least two names under his, relating to the same shared property, referred to tenants who had left. There is no functional mechanism for ensuring the removal of names from the Electoral Roll. He said he could easily have come back later in the day and committed the fraud of "personification" if he had so wished ....

The only way you are going to get around all this is the full implementation and acceptance of a National ID Card, which this and previous Governments would just love to implement anyway, despite all the lip service towards civil liberty.

I agree that postal vote fiddling is more of a problem.
I have changed my mind on an ID card. It's OK if it's just for identification and voting.
Stick your card in the slot and vote, sorted.
If you can use a loyalty card in a supermarket I'm sure you can use one to vote.

cromwell wrote:If you can use a loyalty card in a supermarket I'm sure you can use one to vote.

Absolutely!

My previous was TIC, well almost. Some of the SJWs actually believe in those things.

All an ID needs is a photo, Name, DoB, Address and a card number. You know the thing, one of those big numbers like on our debit or credit or store cards that nearly all of us have.

Regardless of the whole voting angle, I'm still not in favour of ID cards. There are other ways to do this and people can be organised about it.

Suff wrote:There are other ways to do this and people can be organised about it.

"Ways" = plural. Simple IDs are useful for all sorts of these things - UC, Housing Benefit, DLA, GP services, NHS or just proof of who you claim to be... and, err voting.

The floor's all yours.

No need for the floor, you covered how it could be. How it will be is another matter entirely. This kind of move is the top of a slippery slope to an ID card.

We both carried one of those, I have no intention of doing it again.