Vocal Voices

So they cannot all agree on which sanctions should be imposed on Russia- useless lot

They are in a bit of a spot Vic.
Russia supplies Germany and Italy with a lot of gas, if Putin turns the gas off they are stuffed.
Plus Ukraine is a big supplier of food, especially wheat.
It is always difficult getting 27 different people to come up with one plan.

EU "dis"Unity. An old story, one I have talked about for a long time.

Their first disunited moment after spending years stonewalling the UK was the budget, Ukraine will be the second.

Unless there is some other major upset in the world, the third will be the next renegotiation of the TFEU.

The biggest myth post war has been EU unity. Exposed at every critical situation. The last one was the financial crisis.

What, not Brexit you ask? No they were always united against the UK. No change when we decided to leave.

After all there was a segregation of NATO intel after it became evident that Nato intel had been leaked to the Serbs by France with official approval.

If we can have disunity In NATO through self interest, why not within the EU?

Oh please! Give it a freakin' rest with the anti EU stuff. It is no longer relevant. We are out - free to go our own way. What the EU does is up to it. It is no more our business than what MERCOSUR or NAFTA do, and we do not endlessly navel gaze on what they are doing.

You Brexthicks won the rigged vote, but you are pathetic, stuck in the past. Get over it, and please stop pretending it was worth it.

Rigged vote ? How so?
I am glad we 're out from the back stabbers

victor wrote:Rigged vote ? How so?

Try 40+ years of lies, myths and legends.

But you knew that, you were part of it.

Oh my life here we go again.........

Perhaps we'd all be better off concentrating on current battles rather than try to refight old ones?
Just a thought .....

Well yes, but it does appear to be the Brexiters who want to keep the battles and rolling eyes going to justify their "win". They are the ones who keep telling us how bad the EU is / was and how it continues to hurt us even though we are now out. Boris-the-Uncombed got Brexit done - remember. We traitorous Remoaners are just getting on with things. Suck it up, you winners.

A funny old world, eh?

Yep that's right, don't understand.

I don't mind. But if you want to understand come over for a few decades, live, work, talk to the people from the different nations, learn their wants, needs, expectations.

No? Just call anyone who thinks the EU is dysfunctional a Brexiteer and dismiss them, that'll do it.

This is nothing to do with Brexit apart from one of the triggers.

This is about understanding the EU and why it cannot respond to a crisis without trying to tear itself apart.

The EU is one of the strongest buffers against Russian expansionist aggression. The other one is NATO. Nato works, the EU does not.

Why would we not want to understand that and want it to be fixed?