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Headlines and subliminal messaging

PostPosted: 23 Jun 2022, 18:50
by Suff
Now I read a headline which stated:

Germany moves closer to gas rationing over Russian disruption


I'm old enough to find the words Germany and Gas to be somewhat unsettling. Especially when the headline starts "Germany moves closer to gas".

Just me maybe?? :shock: :shock:

Re: Headlines and subliminal messaging

PostPosted: 23 Jun 2022, 19:24
by Kaz
Yes, just you! The war was over almost eighty years ago :roll:

Re: Headlines and subliminal messaging

PostPosted: 23 Jun 2022, 21:12
by Workingman
Yes, Kaz.

Unfortunately there are many 'hard boys' who never fought in that war, any war, who still want to keep it going.

Virtue signalling keyboard warriors, one and all.

Re: Headlines and subliminal messaging

PostPosted: 24 Jun 2022, 12:36
by Suff
No, perhaps it is because I have visited Dachau, been explained the true scale of the horror and that German children don't get out of school without the tour. Told to me during the tour.

Apparently the German government doesn't want to forget through fear it might, some day, happen again.

But I'm just some "hard man" who is a knuckle dragging ape.

All I can say is thank god I didn't got o Auchswitz, because the colleagues I met who went were pretty spooked by the whole experience.

Perhaps they were just "knuckle dragging hard men too". Seemed to me the opposite, none of them would ever go back under any circumstances. All of them said the same thing. As they left they realised the world of noise opened up again and they had been in a place as silent as a tomb, not even a bird call.

Yep, hard men, running from ghosts.

Re: Headlines and subliminal messaging

PostPosted: 24 Jun 2022, 12:59
by Kaz
That doesn’t alter the fact that it was the best part of a century ago, and quite frankly is rather insulting to the present day Germans, who have nothing to answer for! :? We can remember this horror without implying that the words “gas” and “German” in the same sentence should bring up old scores.

Re: Headlines and subliminal messaging

PostPosted: 24 Jun 2022, 14:22
by Suff
Well it will be gone in a decade or two. So we can drop it.

But I can assure you that German school children, even today, get this message reinforced. "Never Again".

Re: Headlines and subliminal messaging

PostPosted: 24 Jun 2022, 14:35
by medsec222
If the German people are themselves hyperaware of what has happened in the past on two occasions, I cannot see they would be insulted if others remember that too. We can move on from the horrors that have happened previously but they are still there as a historical record. As for history repeating itelf, we have only to look at Ukraine. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the arguments cities have been razed to the ground, schools and hospitals smashed to smithereens, women raped, and apparently children too. All this seemingly out of nowhere to most people who would never have envisaged war in Europe. How easy it was for someone with a master plan to overrun a peaceful country. The fact that history does repeat itself cannot now be disputed and never was the phrase 'lest we forget' more apt.

Re: Headlines and subliminal messaging

PostPosted: 24 Jun 2022, 15:52
by cromwell
Donald Trump warned Europe about over dependence on Russian gas, and got sniggered at.
Something else that is not being widely reported, what with Trump being the world's most evil man, obviously.
UK bet the Germans aren't laughing quite as loud now though.

Re: Headlines and subliminal messaging

PostPosted: 24 Jun 2022, 16:21
by Kaz
I didn't say we shouldn't remember! :roll: I just don't see the need for :shock: when modern day Germany and gas are mentioned.

Re: Headlines and subliminal messaging

PostPosted: 24 Jun 2022, 22:07
by Workingman
I too visited Dachau and also Hertzogenbosch (Netherlands)... not that they have anything to do with things today other than deflection.

When it comes to keyboard warriors I am talking about the Mail, Express and BBC 'Hard Nut' types

"Set up a no-fly zone". "Shoot down Russian jets." "Give Ukraine cruise missiles to hit Russian cities." "Bomb Moscow." " Give Putin a bloody nose." " Get him out." "'Wipe' him out." Those sentiments get lots of up votes.

Yes, they will work, or not!. Funny how the queues to Ukraine to carry them out are a bit thin.

Anyone who mentions dialogue or diplomacy are shouted down as 'appeasers' (Neville Chamberlain types) collaborators or even traitors.