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Teaching being forced to evolve

Postby Suff » 07 Sep 2023, 16:40

There are 10 types of people in the world:
Those who understand Binary and those who do not.
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Re: Teaching being forced to evolve

Postby Workingman » 07 Sep 2023, 17:33

And then exam day comes round....

How is the mineral NaCl more widely known?

Lagos was once the capital of which country? What is the name of that country's new capital?

Draw the Circuit Symbol for a Thermistor.

By what other name was King John (24 December 1166 – 19 October 1216) commonly known?

Exams can also evolve to check real knowledge and those who cheat should be prepared for grades 3, 2, 1 and U if that's what they want to do.

A simple move away from prioritising coursework is all it takes. People "learning" using AI and ChatGPT will soon get found out in the real world.
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Re: Teaching being forced to evolve

Postby Suff » 07 Sep 2023, 20:25

The whole point is that drawing a thermistor or even needing to know what the hell King John was called is irrelevant in today's world. If you can't look either up within 30 seconds the entire world you live and work in is already totally screwed so that you can't work anyway.

Creativity is already becoming a blend of AI and human anyway. Not just in Schools but in the real world that education is "supposed" to be preparing children for.

The real need for education, in this day and age, is to train people in how to work and interact with information and technology sources which could not have been even dreamed of when the teachers were born.

It is failing them totally and doesn't even realise it.
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Re: Teaching being forced to evolve

Postby Workingman » 07 Sep 2023, 21:00

So, I'm interviewing candidates and I throw out a few questions relevant to my business and the job. They both have similar grades at GCSE and A-level in subjects applicable to the job on offer.

One answers directly because they have studied and the subject knowledge is already in their head.

The other whips out a smartphone and taps away. After a while they read out the answer - very creative!

Guess which one gets the job and which gets the bus fare home.
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Re: Teaching being forced to evolve

Postby Suff » 08 Sep 2023, 19:04

Workingman wrote:One answers directly because they have studied and the subject knowledge is already in their head.


Today, if the candidate has not use the viable resources to be able to provide at least minimal responses, then they are going to fail.

Then again, I recall in the early 90's the offices I worked in. You could see those who went on the courses and had the elevated positions. They had dozens of books on shelves at their desks. Proof that they had been "educated" to do their job. They used this as a stick to lord it over others.

Today? You never see a book. In fact a shelf of books is a detractor because if you haven't embraced the "global library" of the Internet then you are a dinosaur and are no use to the management.

Things have changed dramatically and the internet and AI are a core part of the job. If we had no internet I might as well take the day off. Everything I do is there, including all my documents which are on the company sharepoint. I work remote and I do all my meetings remote. The solution we are delivering is a cloud solutions, even were I in the office in Canada I could not work without the Internet.

Once I have access to the internet my ability to deliver is enhanced. Much more so than someone who stored a whole bunch of facts in their head and then trot them out one after the other. Facts which age extremely rapidly.

There was a time when I could have given you most of the functions from Clipper from memory. It is now a total waste of neurons and has been "flushed". Nobody uses Clipper any more (well nearly nobody, I saw a job advertised a few weeks ago), it is a DOS programming language with an xBase back end.

The smart management knows that the candidate will have skill and knowledge to a level which allows the remaining information to be researched as the job is being done.

The smart candidate will give a blend of core knowledge followed by a set or resource locations to be used to deliver the job and the way in which they will use those resources to get the job done.

The world has moved on. Education? Not so much.
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Re: Teaching being forced to evolve

Postby Workingman » 09 Sep 2023, 13:14

Conflation...

Education is about giving students the tools to understand, comprehend and analyse the world around them and then to make decisions based on that process. It is why we give them a good menu of STEM, Humanities, Art and practical subjects to learn from. Using that rounded knowledge allows them to move on to deeper knowledge in their chosen subjects of interest and which they are good at.

Knowing how to use AI and ChatGPT does not do that.

If I ever get stuck in a lift I would rather it be with someone who can chat on a broad range of subjects with what they "know" rather than with someone whose "brains" and "knowledge" are on a flip phone in their back pocket... a phone that could be lost or stolen, have the battery run flat or not be receiving a signal. It might not even work in the lift!

Maybe that's just me...
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