1 for 1

[victor]

So who is doing the maths for the govt?
1 for 1 is not 50 sent back a week while thousands are arriving every day

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[medsec222]

Looking at the news Vic it is now 17 in and out. How to stuff Starmer without even trying !!

[Workingman]

It's a "trial": you know, something that has not been done before!

As yet there is no "policy" just mooted ideas. The quoted numbers (by the media) are not "real" they are at the level of what some "think" they "might" become.

What is clear is that if the pilot scheme does go ahead there will be legal and political challenges, as was the case with the Rwanda scheme under the UN Refugee Convention, and also due to the Dublin agreement - from EU countries - which are beyond the control of Labour (UK) and France (EU).

Maybe nothing should be done, is that it? "It's not from the party I support so it must be rubbish." Yes, I think that might be it.

[victor]

All politicians need to grow a pair and turn the boats back.
As soon as they enter UK waters turn them around.


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[Workingman]

All politicians need to grow a pair and turn the boats back.
As soon as they enter UK waters turn them around.

That might appeal to the Reform Party UK Ltd, PLC crew, but it is illegal.
To do it is against various national laws and international treaties. Changing national laws does not work, as the UK found out regarding Rwanda, because the various international (UN) laws and treaties we have signed up to hold sway.

Not only that, but we are looking at the problem in the wrong way. Illegal immigrants only account for about 8% of all those who come in. The other 90%+ (~700,000 p.a.) arrive at the behest of businesses who "claim" that they have skills not available to them in the UK workforce. It is nonsense, but goes unquestioned by all and sundry (esp politicians) who just accept what they are told and what is reported in the media.

If the skills really do not exist then what are they and why are we not training up our own people to fill the gaps? It is not as though we have no unemployed "workers" is it? I also ask why these super-skilled workers do not come in as expatriate workers on a temporary basis and be fully funded by their UK employers?

I was an ex pat for many years. The countries I worked in got my skills but my employers paid all my costs - accommodation, transport, medical etc.- then once locals had been trained up (see lack of skills claims) I came home. There is nothing stopping the UK from doing the same.

[victor]

The clown in number 10 is getting worse

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[medsec222]

Our PM is such an agreeable fellow

[victor]

Surely under all international laws and treaties that you mention they are supposed to claim asylum in the 1st country they come to.
There was a report yesterday of an illegal stuck in mud in france asking the reporter to help him as he wanted to get to U.K.
Now which ( war torn country)was he from ??INDIA!!!!

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