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Leading the news

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2013, 22:59
by Suff
RBS chief exits
Clegg should have had a better handle on a rogue Lord
Monks get a recording contract

Not Leading the News

Greece shuts down their state broadcaster
Greece is downgraded from Developed Nation to Emerging market by one ratings agency

Now I might agree that Monks getting a recording contract is probably Much more interesting than Greece continues it's decline. If it were not for the fact that the News organs are hyping up the "good news" about Greece and the fact that the Euro will get it's 18th member soon.

All I can say is I'm glad I can get the Russian news in English. Also much more detail on the whole mess in Turkey and scenes of a person in a wheelchair being bombarded by water canon....

More quality reporting from our guardians of Democracy...

Re: Leading the news

PostPosted: 13 Jun 2013, 06:20
by KateLMead
Conspiracy to keep bad news at bay? "Never!!! not in this country where openness, honesty, freedom of information and transparency is law. Interesting about the blacklisting of individuals in the building industry. "Don't know anything about that says Mc Calpine and all the rest in the industry including the Trades Unions.

Re: Leading the news

PostPosted: 13 Jun 2013, 08:29
by kathy22
I watched that programme Kate and it didn't surprise me at all. I think it went on more than we know.

Kathy

Re: Leading the news

PostPosted: 13 Jun 2013, 10:02
by Workingman
Al Jazeera and Russia Today sit side by side on my TV along with the BBC and Sky. Reuters and AFP are on my bookmarks bar with the Telegraph and Independent and others.

To trust one organisation for news seems barmy to me, but that's the way my mind works.

Re: Leading the news

PostPosted: 13 Jun 2013, 12:29
by Suff
You could add Euronews.

Interestingly the European Broadcast Union has been airing ERT staff and their complaints. Nothing about that. And how about the French Air Traffic control strikes followed by the Rail strike today and tomorrow.

The silence is deafening in Britain.

Of course if you air all of this bad news, you can't say that the UK economy is bad, that we're in a mess and the coalition is doing a bad job.

Can you???

Re: Leading the news

PostPosted: 13 Jun 2013, 15:18
by Aggers
Kate wrote:Interesting about the blacklisting of individuals in the building industry. "Don't know anything about that says Mc Calpine and all the rest in the industry including the Trades Unions.


Blacklisting of undesirable trouble makers is nothing new. I've come across it, and, to be honest, in some cases it is justified.

Re: Leading the news

PostPosted: 13 Jun 2013, 15:47
by Workingman
One of my main grudges about UK news outlets is that they have their agendas and causes celebre. If you read/watch them often enough you can spot them a mile off - a sort of social conditioning passed off as news.

I am not talking about their political views, they are to be expected, the DM is to the right, the Mirror is to the left, etc.. I am talking about the way other subjects are presented, especially with opinions being given as facts, and anyone who challenges their orthodoxy is censored.

Re: Leading the news

PostPosted: 13 Jun 2013, 17:18
by Suff
Yes that's a big issue WM. As soon as you try to set the record straight, your voice is cut off and everyone is led to believe the opinion is correct.

Unless you are so incensed that you want to set up a website and go on social media to promote it to show the LIE in all it's glory, you will never get the straight story out.

I don't know what you do to recover a country from this. I see it as terminal. Power and opinion is in the hands of a very few and they know it. They USE it.

Re: Leading the news

PostPosted: 13 Jun 2013, 17:45
by Workingman
Suff wrote:Yes that's a big issue WM. As soon as you try to set the record straight, your voice is cut off and everyone is led to believe the opinion is correct.

The BBC is in the forefront of this. It has a thing called 'Have your say' yet the subjects are carefully chosen, and any comments not supportive are removed on the basis that they are against site rules, or for further consideration by the moderators..... but they never reappear. If the original is not seen as posted nobody knows what was said.

Free speech - not in the UK.

Re: Leading the news

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2013, 07:07
by KateLMead
Workingman wrote:
Suff wrote:Yes that's a big issue WM. As soon as you try to set the record straight, your voice is cut off and everyone is led to believe the opinion is correct.

The BBC is in the forefront of this. It has a thing called 'Have your say' yet the subjects are carefully chosen, and any comments not supportive are removed on the basis that they are against site rules, or for further consideration by the moderators..... but they never reappear. If the original is not seen as posted nobody knows what was said.

Free speech - not in the UK.


Another example. is to apply to be in the audience of Question Time and the ask a question, the vetting is amazing Dimbleby is left wing, he choses his questions carefully.