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At last!

PostPosted: 14 Oct 2013, 11:11
by Workingman
A major news media outlet, Sky, has carried out an immigration poll and will give it a week of special coverage.

The initial results are not very favourable to governments, past and present, with the suggestion that the majority of us want "Drastic action" over what is seen as a problem. It will now depend on the way the results are treated in the reporting.

Will experts be brought forth to tell us how wrong we are and to preach the economic and social benefits? Will those directly involved listen to what the people are saying? Will the interviewers grill both sides for proof regarding their answers, or will everyone get to declaim their own sound bites unchallenged?

I am hoping for some objective reporting and analysis, for once, but I won't hold my breath.

Re: At last!

PostPosted: 14 Oct 2013, 11:18
by Rodo
Wow! One to watch!

Re: At last!

PostPosted: 14 Oct 2013, 13:37
by pederito1
Anything bad will be suppressed one way or other. :(

Re: At last!

PostPosted: 14 Oct 2013, 14:23
by TheOstrich
You can already see the spin ....

http://news.sky.com/story/1153164/immig ... tic-action

The poll, conducted by Sky News as part of a week-long examination of the issue of immigration, found the people most concerned about the impact of immigration are the ones least likely to have been exposed to migrants.
For example, 71% of people who live in the countryside think drastic action is needed, compared with 53% in urban areas.
And 71% of people who don't know any immigrants well support drastic action, compared with 58% who say they know immigrants well.


and

Mrs May insisted: ...... "Immigration overall has been good for the country."

Or in other words, we should all learn to love immigration and not be ostriches ..... :roll:

Re: At last!

PostPosted: 14 Oct 2013, 15:04
by Suff
Tell those in Lincolnshire, in the country, that they have not been impacted.

One of the largest surges in support for UKIP came from Boston....

Immigrants look to work on the land. It is what many know and requires little skill or qualifications. Hence the figures.

Reality takes a different viewpoint depending on who is looking at it.

Re: At last!

PostPosted: 14 Oct 2013, 17:31
by Workingman
So, my suspicions that a transparent debate will not happen and that spin will be the order of the day look to be coming true.

Why is debate, where both sides can equally and fairly attack the opposite position, so feared when contentious topics arise? And why does the media always take the side of TPTB or let them have the greater say?

Re: At last!

PostPosted: 15 Oct 2013, 13:51
by cromwell
Slightly at a tangent, but here is one reason why illegal immigration, or at least attempted illegal immigration, is only going to increase. The first figure is the population in millions in 1972, the second in millions in 2012.

Country
Ethiopia - 30.14 to 91.73
Nigeria - 58.83 to 168.8
Somalia - 3.49 to 10.2
Senegal - 4.4 to 13.73
Chad - 3.8 to 12.45
Sudan - 10.9 to 37.2
Pakistan - 62.53 to 179.2
Tanzania - 14.5 to 47.78
Uganda - 9.98 to 36.35
Kenya - 12.8 to 43.18
Niger - 4.7 to 14.85
Afghanistan - 11.64 to 29.82

In the last forty years the population of some of the poorest nations on earth has typically tripled.

Re: At last!

PostPosted: 15 Oct 2013, 14:25
by Workingman
Not much of a tangent when you consider that the WHO, UNICEF, Save the Children, Oxfam, and may more, have the stated aim of reducing poverty in the third world by................ sharing out scarce resources with more and more people. Work that one out. Biafra and Ethiopia seem to have passed these people by.

They have helped to create the problem we now face and which our politicians have always been too timid to tackle.

If I was born in a mud hut in a dust bowl in Sudan a two-up, two-down, back-to-back in the poorest area of Bradford would look like luxury and I might even risk my life trying to get there.