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British public have no idea...

PostPosted: 15 Jul 2014, 17:40
by Diflower
(Nicked this link from fb)
This is really interesting - a survey shows people have completely the wrong idea about some pretty important issues.
The question is, how do you go about correcting these misperceptions?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 97821.html

Re: British public have no idea...

PostPosted: 15 Jul 2014, 17:49
by Rodo
Well the press have a lot to do with this. They often misrepresent the facts. It's no wonder people are muddled.

Re: British public have no idea...

PostPosted: 15 Jul 2014, 20:07
by Aggers
I agree with Rodo.

The only one where I beg to differ is this one:-

Crime: some 58 per cent of people do not believe crime is falling, when the Crime Survey
for England and Wales shows that incidents of crime were 19 per cent lower in 2012 than in
2006/07 and 53 per cent lower than in 1995.


Why? - because i believe the police make sure that crime appears =to be falling by the simple process of not prosecuting in a good many instances.

Re: British public have no idea...

PostPosted: 15 Jul 2014, 20:35
by Kaz
I think you are right Aggers x

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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2014, 07:55
by Lozzles
Kaz wrote:I think you are right Aggers x


Me too.

Re: British public have no idea...

PostPosted: 16 Jul 2014, 08:51
by Suff
Aggers wrote:Why? - because i believe the police make sure that crime appears =to be falling by the simple process of not prosecuting in a good many instances.


Ah it is much more insidious than that. I have direct confirmation that they are reporting in crime clusters. If 3 crmies are committed in the same act, the Police are clustering them. Even if they cannot be clustered becuase they are different sections of the law. Then they report them as a single offence.

so whereas Police used to report each and every offence as a single item, now they group them and report the group as a single item. My information is that crimes, based on traditional reporting, are 50% - 300% higher than the reporting figures would suggest.

As for the rest of the perceptions? It depends where you come from. If you ask a white man in Liecester what the immigration count is, you are going to get a massively higher count than if you ask someone in Kendal.

Also if you ask someone about JSA, they assume "benefits". But, in fact, JSA is just the smallest tip of the total benefits pile. Pensions are <50% of the total benefits pile

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablo ... e-spending

So "what the people know" might actually be more than the Independent would like them to know....

Re: British public have no idea...

PostPosted: 23 Jul 2014, 06:26
by KateLMead
We are told only what gov and authorities thinks is good for us! :roll: they all lie through their teeth, and thinking we are all imbeciles the deceit and lies carry on,and are now par for the course.
I agree with Aggers, we are living or are expected to live in "Cloud a Cuckoo Land. And those who Believe Any Statistics given out by deceitful governments and authorities do just that"

Re: British public have no idea...

PostPosted: 23 Jul 2014, 10:27
by Suff
We live in a world where more information, about almost every aspect of our lives, is available to us for the lowest level of effort.

So what do we see? People finding out what is really going on in their lives?

Nope, the biggest library of information in the world is used for...... Talking down the pub. Or, even worse, full of teenagers wittering about "I'm going to the toilet now".....

We get what we deserve and we get out of life what we put in. We live in a time when any politician who lies to us can be called to book with evidence to prove the lies. Yet the reality is that people are so self obsessed they have no interest in what is going on around them. Even to the point where they can't even work out that it is self harming to ignore these things....

Then when the press repeat these lies.... They get away with it.

You only get out of life what you put into it. I'm just wondering when people suddenly started believing that someone else could put it in and they would reap all the benefits????

My Brother has an interesting saying. "We enjoyed making that mistake soooo much that we decided to make it all over again".... He also says "If you cut corners you hit lamp posts".