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Human Trafficking

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2014, 06:19
by KateLMead
So the pathetic group of women and children locked in a container are from Afghanistan, ranging from one year of age to seventy year old man
What a sick world we are living in. Of course we must accommodate them, but where
Will it all end ? Get these filthy traffickers sorted here for a start.

Re: Human Trafficking

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2014, 09:30
by cromwell
I would very gently but very firmly send them all back to Afghanistan. All the hearts and flowers "We are treating them as victims" stuff gets right on my pecs. They are illegal immigrants, send them home; end of. We can't be the conscience of the world.

Re: Human Trafficking

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2014, 09:48
by Suff
However horrific their journey, nobody herded them into this container against their will.

Send them home with nothing more than they left with. It's the only way to ensure that they stop coming. These people paid to come over. If they are sent back, they are poorer than when they left and in the same situation. That is the message we need to send.

OK make sure they are fit and healthy. But send them home.

Nothing else can achieve the desired result. When will the west realise that there are 2 billion more just waiting the chance to escape the seething mess they have made with large families and medical care which ensures they don't die in the first 10 years. If we don't stop them, they will do the same in every western country too.

Then where are they going to go? The moon? Mars?

Anyone who has ever been to the US realises the sheer size of the country, compared to the population. The EU is densely populated in comparison. Canada and Australia even more so. I note that the US, Canada and Australia are extremely vociferous about keeping the unwanted out. Quite rightly in my opinion. The US could take half of Africa if they wanted to be as densely populated as the UK. Then what would they be?

Re: Human Trafficking

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2014, 09:52
by Workingman
I tend to agree with Cromwell, but I would also add that we need to seriously tackle the trafficker/gangmaster issues as well.

If Panorama and Dispatches can hunt down and expose the illegal activities of these scumbags, as they have done, then it should not be beyond the capabilities of the Home Office and police to do the same. They might have to shift resources from monitoring twitter and Facebook for nasty posts, but it is a price we must pay.

Re: Human Trafficking

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2014, 12:53
by KateLMead
Oh dear Cromwell. Would you really send them back home? I would put a block on "all Easter Europeans" the Roma etc,mget rid of all traffickers, criminals who have entered and worry more about the needy. This country is already full of foreigners illegal and supposedly legal. Another hateful mess courtesy of Tony B'Liar . And the bloody EU. We have a country of down and outs, parts of London saturated with these immigrants most of whom are on benefits... little is done to help the misery of homeless ex military, many addicted to the drugs they were sent out to Afghanistanto get rid of.

Re: Human Trafficking

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2014, 15:29
by cromwell
Yes Kate, I would send them home. Same thing with all the African boat people who pitch up on Lampedusa Island, Italy. Yes, they are fleeing from a poor life; but who made it poor? The population of many African countries has tripled in 40 years! I don't know what the answer is but I do know it isn't a policy of "Here, let me help you ashore" because that is only going to make things worse in Europe and encourage the countless thousands of others who want to come here.

Re: Human Trafficking

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2014, 16:05
by KateLMead
Oh dear I am writing with the emotions of one who was homeless as a nineteen year old
With a baby. The misery being lost and alone on returning from Germany . Sitting on a bench in Southend
No money no where to go. A woman saw my plight and my tears asked me what was wrong
I told her, and she took me home with her, as I have taken those in who have been homeless,
From then on I took living in jobs until I moved to Cheltenham where I met my darling husband. He gave me
Then an ultimatum ,. No more waifs and strays. My Choice them or him. My children have all dedicated their working life
Working for the homeless, youngest with Shelter, Gus,homeless women and children.Karenq in a home in London before qualifying as a maternity nurse. So I suppose seeing women and children hits a raw nerve.

P

Re: Human Trafficking

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2014, 16:23
by Aggers
I'm with Cromwell on this one.

I, like Kate, am deeply sorry for the people we are referring to, but we can't keeping let all and sundry into our country.

This tight little isle is getting too full.

If it was universal knowledge that any illegal immigrants would be automatically sent back to where they came
from, the problem could be solved very quickly.

Re: Human Trafficking

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2014, 18:48
by TheOstrich
They are Sikhs, who are a persecuted minority if Afghanistan from what I can gather. It's very difficult, but I would have had slightly more sympathy for them if they hadn't immediately claimed political asylum ....

I'm afraid, Kate, I would also evict them from this country (we have to send a strong message to deter others or we will be overrun) - but I would send these folk, very quietly, to the Punjab to start a new life there.

I have no sympathy for the clammering mob at Calais. They are the EU's and France's problem, not ours, as far as I am concerned. Any that make it over here should be returned on the next truck out. And for every illegal immigrant from France we have to evict, we should also evict a French emigree back to the Continent at the same time. That'll get the beggars ticking!! :mrgreen:

Re: Human Trafficking

PostPosted: 19 Aug 2014, 06:24
by KateLMead
It is thought that they entered the truck either in Germany or Belgium !