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You would think that UKIP

Postby Suff » 17 Feb 2015, 07:36

has gone away.

Until I found this article in the FT.

Some snippets, it's behind a subscriber wall (I don't pay just limit myself to the free articles)

Insurgent parties are the known unknowns of the next election. Last week one of them, the UK Independence party, launched its campaign on a fading esplanade in the Conservative-held seat of Castle Point. “Believe in Britain” was how Nigel Farage chose to summarise his pitch to voters — but just as telling was the place where he chose to say them. Far away from Westminster, this working-class constituency is in Ukip’s emerging Essex heartland and has a long tradition of revolts against the establishment.


The Conservatives initially derided Mr Farage and his party as an amateur gang of clowns and closet racists. The strategy was to mock Ukip and its supporters out of existence. Neither David Cameron nor the band of modernisers that surrounds the prime minister had understood the power of traditional social conservatism, and the intensity of anger among its most ardent followers.

Worse, they underestimated Mr Farage, who has spent two decades refining his message for voters who feel anxious about social change and fear that politicians have left them behind.

Belatedly, the Tories have changed tack, hoping to quell the rebellion by offering such concessions as a referendum on whether the UK should stay in the EU and talking tough on migrant benefits. It is probably too late. Many social conservatives have left the room


His strategists have repeated the miscalculation that the Blairites made a decade earlier: that their core voters had nowhere else to go.

Labour’s response has been no better, passing slowly from complacency to denial and then misdiagnosis. Strategists on the centre-left should have looked to mainland Europe, where radical right parties have been devastatingly effective in the socialist heartlands. Only in the local and European elections of 2014, when it became clear that Ukip could appeal to centre-left voters too, did Labour take action.

Even then, the party wilfully ignored the social and cultural tinge to voters’ complaints, instead imagining that they could be bought off with talk about a living wage. To voters mainly concerned about the social effects of immigration, Mr Farage’s story about a loss of national identity was far more compelling.

The trouble for both parties is that they have misunderstood what Ukip is and what it represents. Like populist radical right parties in continental Europe, the party is thriving in the rift between those who are broadly at ease with diversity and those who feel culturally threatened.

Last week Mr Farage claimed that people do not vote for his party for its policies so much as “because they see us as honest, straight-talking and sounding like them”. It was not a protest vote, he insisted, but a “a state of mind”. By the time the election is over, we might discover that it is one many Britons share.

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Re: You would think that UKIP

Postby Workingman » 17 Feb 2015, 13:25

Last week Mr Farage claimed that people do not vote for his party for its policies so much as “because they see us as honest, straight-talking and sounding like them”. It was not a protest vote, he insisted, but a “a state of mind”. By the time the election is over, we might discover that it is one many Britons share.

And that is what the other parties do not get. It is why all the slurs and insults do not work. To call UKIP, the party, racist, bigoted and so on is to call those thinking of giving them their vote the same things. The British have an attitude to that sort of thing and that is to fight back.

There was a time when to call someone a racist would have them cowering in a corner and performing some sort of penance, even if they were not a racist. Today such accusations are more likely to be met with "Who are you calling a racist? What proof do you have? Get out of my face and take YOUR bigoted views somewhere else."
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Re: You would think that UKIP

Postby Suff » 17 Feb 2015, 14:47

Workingman wrote: Today such accusations are more likely to be met with "Who are you calling a racist? What proof do you have? Get out of my face and take YOUR bigoted views somewhere else."


Not before time either.
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Re: You would think that UKIP

Postby medsec222 » 17 Feb 2015, 16:03

Couldn't agree more with you both.
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