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Immigrant Relocation

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2015, 08:32
by Suff
I wonder when it will occur to the EU that if they enshrine EU citizenship, conferred by the EU itself, then immigrants will be able to travel and work anywhere in the EU.

Thus resolving the entire problem with fighting the "states" over taking quotas. Just set up the offices in Italy and Greece, give them citizenship, let them go. Job done......

It would also usher the UK out of the EU in a trice...

Re: Immigrant Relocation

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2015, 09:50
by cromwell
That crossed my mind too Suff. Germany processes 100,000 migrants and sends them off to lets say Hungary. Hungary in the mean time has passed a law saying you have to have paid tax in Hungary for five years before you are eligible for a house or benefits.

Hungary then issues 100,000 train tickets back to Germany... :lol:

Re: Immigrant Relocation

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2015, 11:10
by Suff
There is a simple way of stopping this whole economic migration thing dead.

EU wide, every country pays benefits to those EU citizens at the rate they would receive at home. If they have paid UK tax and NI, then they will receive these benefits for as long as they would the UK benefits (jobseekers allowance, 6 months), but each EU country will pay it wherever that person is living, even in their home country.

If they can't afford to leave because they don't have the money, the EU country they have been living and working in will give them a free, one way, ticket home.

In that way, every EU migrant worker gets the benefits of their home country. Don't have work? Can't afford to live? Go home and we'll support you for the 6 months until either your home benefits system kicks in or you get a job.

Hardly what you could call unfair. If you want more, then become a citizen of that country...

For the Immigrants? Subsistence level support until the get a job. Barracks style accommodation with cookhouse food and a clothing allowance until they get a job. As soon as they get a job, they have to pay for the barracks accommodation and food until they are able to get out and afford accommodation themselves. The forces are great at this, let's fund the forces to do it for them. God knows there's enough old barracks mouldering away in the UK and they even have fences around them.....

Also we could boost our building trade by building new one's. Which could, when the crisis is over, become single person accommodation for those who don't have any.

Basic, cheap, economy of scale, shared accommodation. The forces have had to do it forever. I don't see why it is not good enough for people who claim to be on the run for their lives....

Safe, Secure, yes. Able to piggyback on our benefits? NO.

That is as far as my social conscience and basic humanity sees that we need to go. Everything beyond that is entirely up to them...

Re: Immigrant Relocation

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2015, 12:02
by Workingman
Genuine refugees, if they can prove their case, are one thing and have to be given a fair shout.

Economic migrants, providing they have gone through the proper channels and been accepted by a country, should be given a work permit for that country and allowed access to some benefits in that country.

The rest are illegal immigrants and must be treated as such. They should be shipped back to the last safe country they were in and from there moved back home.

Re: Immigrant Relocation

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2015, 13:38
by victor
Send them all back

Once the 20,000 are absorbed,comes the next 20,000 and the next 20,000 ,as infinitum?

Europe cannot absorb Africa

Re: Immigrant Relocation

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2015, 14:02
by TheOstrich
victor wrote:Send them all back


You're part of the Schengen area, aren't you, Vic? As soon as they get their citizenship, they'll all be over your way for their hols ...... :mrgreen: