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Could this be the end of Labour?
Posted:
03 Dec 2015, 11:11
by Workingman
A third of its MPs could be under threat of deselection if Ken Livingston and Ken Loach have their war. They are calling on members of Momentum, Left Unity and any old Tom, Leon or Karl to challenge any MP who voted for the bombing in Syria.
They have also turned to the now compulsory use of Farcebook and Twatter to insult and threaten anyone who disagrees with them.
Maybe it is time for the 66 "targets" to grow a communal backbone and walk away and form a new party.
There would be some big-hitters in the new group and even some of those who voted against the bombing would join them.
Re: Could this be the end of Labour?
Posted:
03 Dec 2015, 11:20
by cromwell
After Hilary Benn's dishonest and hammy speech yesterday I think Labour have just found their new Tony Blair. The Blairites want to return to the status quo in politics asap, and that means trying to knife Corbyn as quickly as possible. The media will be all on their side so the odds are that they will succeed. Interesting times ahead though.
Re: Could this be the end of Labour?
Posted:
03 Dec 2015, 13:05
by Suff
I don't now but if Corbyn doesn't back off he may find that he's fighting a 3 way battle between SNP, Lib Dems and whatever the new group is that splinters off from Labour. If he manages to drive out his biggest names and a total of 100 MP's then we could see a real alternative to Labour with Labour levels of funding.
Given that the Tories have changed back to contracting in labour subs from Union fees, Labour are more vulnerable to collapsing than ever before.
I saw that Carswell voted against Farage on the bombing too. Tough one all round.
Election day today. Be interesting to see the results tomorrow.
Re: Could this be the end of Labour?
Posted:
03 Dec 2015, 19:34
by TheOstrich
cromwell wrote:After Hilary Benn's dishonest and hammy speech yesterday .....
You weren't applauding, then, Crommers ?
I know Suff is keen to see Corbyn survive as long as possible, not necessarily for altruistic reasons, but personally I can't wait for his demise. The Corbynistas are simply full of hate.
Hilary Benn as an alternative leader must be a good bet now - but when?
Re: Could this be the end of Labour?
Posted:
04 Dec 2015, 15:31
by cromwell
TheOstrich wrote:Hilary Benn as an alternative leader must be a good bet now - but when?
Too late Os! He was 10-1 last week but only 3-1 now!
Re: Could this be the end of Labour?
Posted:
04 Dec 2015, 16:09
by Workingman
I wonder if the new breakaway party will be called the YLPP, the Yorkshire Labour Parachutist Party.
We have Hilary, Rachel, Ed B (to make a comeback), Yvette, Caroline, Mary and Ed M. Bring in those whose 'chutes blew them hither and dither and it is quite a party.
Re: Could this be the end of Labour?
Posted:
05 Dec 2015, 18:33
by KateLMead
cromwell wrote:After Hilary Benn's dishonest and hammy speech yesterday I think Labour have just found their new Tony Blair. The Blairites want to return to the status quo in politics asap, and that means trying to knife Corbyn as quickly as possible. The media will be all on their side so the odds are that they will succeed. Interesting times ahead though.
I heard part of B'liars advice on TV this morning, advising government as to how they should deal with the Syrian crisis. He is the last person on earth I would seek for advice, that is other than how to make millions since his illegal attack on Iraq, charging a fortune for people to listen to his waffle., Some "Peace Envoy" he couldn't get rid of the title quick enough.