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Re: A very touchy topic

Postby Workingman » 22 Feb 2015, 14:37

“We understand you have strong feelings and want to help those you believe are suffering in Syria. You can help from home, you don’t have to put yourself in danger.”


What the hell does that mean? Come home and you can help IS from your bedroom. Come home and you can do your IS work on British streets. Come home, we will support you.
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Re: A very touchy topic

Postby Kaz » 22 Feb 2015, 16:55

Lock the borders and let them stay out there!
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Re: A very touchy topic

Postby TheOstrich » 22 Feb 2015, 18:39

Workingman wrote:
“We understand you have strong feelings and want to help those you believe are suffering in Syria. You can help from home, you don’t have to put yourself in danger.”


What the hell does that mean? Come home and you can help IS from your bedroom. Come home and you can do your IS work on British streets. Come home, we will support you.


Precisely, I wasn't quite sure how to read that statement, either! :lol:

Agree with Kaz, keep them out of the country and if they keep complaining, ship the parents off to Syria as well.
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Re: A very touchy topic

Postby Suff » 22 Feb 2015, 20:48

I was afraid of this. In these communities the first thing they tend to do, when things go wrong, is look for someone to blame. We have taught them that this is the way to go so why be surprised.

However they might want to learn a salient message. When children do something like this to their parents and families, the best place to start looking for someone to blame is the mirror....

Everything else is just guilt and justification.

Really the media needs to get it's head on straight about this but they're worried about the racist slur.
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Re: A very touchy topic

Postby Aggers » 22 Feb 2015, 20:51

My view is that if they want to go out there, let them go.

But on the understanding that they will not be allowed back here.
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Re: A very touchy topic

Postby Kaz » 23 Feb 2015, 08:45

That's spot on Aggers x
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Re: A very touchy topic

Postby Workingman » 23 Feb 2015, 11:39

Ah bless, it turns out that the girls are not the vulnerable young things the media would have had us believe.

It turns out that one of them used her 17 year old sister's passport when leaving the UK. That indicates an element of planning and an awareness that two 15 year-olds and a 16 year-old might arouse suspicions. In an attempt to surmount that potential problem the girls took steps to make themselves less noticeable.

This was no spur of the moment thing, these girls wanted to go and did everything they could think of in order not to be stopped.

Why are the authorities wasting taxpayers' money trying to bring them back?
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Re: A very touchy topic

Postby Kaz » 23 Feb 2015, 15:27

Fifteen in old enough to know right from wrong, they knew exactly what IS are capable of - the shocking cruelty, the beheadings etc - yet they chose to go. End of.
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Re: A very touchy topic

Postby Suff » 23 Feb 2015, 17:21

One of them had been following up to 70 of these IS Jihadi fighters on Twitter.

I'd like someone to follow up with the school parent governor and get him thrown off. On Holiday indeed! BS of the first order and either he believes it, which means he's too much of an idiot to be allowed anywhere near children, or he lied, which has the same end result.

Fortunately these girls won't be allowed to leave. Ever. Unless there is a final victory over IS and they are both widowed and expelled from where they are living. Then they will come running home, with their children and their attitudes and, of course, we complete idiots will take them in.

There have been tweets from the IS accounts that they are already in Syria. That I believe. So we can now shut up about them and leave them to their chosen fate. Of course the press won't. I'm sure their families deserve a reasonable measure of sympathy, but when I read some of the statements being made by the Solicitors, I feel they deserve less of that sympathy. Anger and mortification should not be and never be there in this situation. Loss, angst, hope for a resolution. But Anger? That is what drives people away...
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