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Re: Ted Heath and his alleged child abuse.

Postby debih » 05 Aug 2015, 09:25

I agree that more should be put into the here and now cases but still think the historic cases should be investigated, whether the perpetrator is famous or not, to try to bring closure for the victim.
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Re: Ted Heath and his alleged child abuse.

Postby Kaz » 05 Aug 2015, 10:17

Yes I think closure is important too, whether famous or not! I just worry in case a much higher proportion of the money available to bring such cases to justice is being spent on the famous ones, rather than the others. As long as there is enough in the pot to protect the children going through this now, they can 'go for' the famous names too, in fact they really should!
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Re: Ted Heath and his alleged child abuse.

Postby Workingman » 05 Aug 2015, 10:34

We should not conflate the here and now cases with historical cases, they both need investigation.

Once Savile was discovered many others followed: Harris, Clifford, Fox etc. It just happens to be unfortunate that most of the politicians and Westminster mandarins currently under investigation happen to be dead, but not all, as I expect the Goddard inquiry to find out.

The fact that acts of paedophilia were being carried out by some of the most powerful members of our society, and then for those same people to be protected by the system, have to be thoroughly investigated and names named.

We were all appalled when the revelations were first made and the victims need our support in order for them to get some sort of closure.
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Re: Ted Heath and his alleged child abuse.

Postby cromwell » 05 Aug 2015, 19:29

So far this week we have had one senior officer warning us that the police may not attend the scene of a burglary.
http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Poli ... story.html

That "odd numbered" burglaries were ignored in Leicestershire.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-le ... e-33788264

A further top police officer has called for the decriminalisation of drugs (meaning that he wouldn't have to investigate drug crime, I suppose)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-le ... e-33788264

Yet another top cop saying that the police shouldn't have to investigate runaways.
http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/05/greater-m ... d-3951055/

So that's a lot of things that the police don't want to do.

But investigate allegations of historical sex offences against someone who has been dead for ten years, and they are all over it like a rash.

Why not investigate Adolf Hitler? He wasn't a very nice man and he's been dead for years as well!

How many officers are engaged in the Jimmy Savile investigation?

Where the perpetrators are still alive, OK, but this whole thing is getting out of hand now.

Appealling for "more victims to come forward" is a two edged sword as well; every fruitcake in the country will be sticking their hands up and saying they were victims.
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Re: Ted Heath and his alleged child abuse.

Postby Workingman » 05 Aug 2015, 19:46

Sorry, Cromwell, but a lot of these perverts were in positions to formulate laws. Many of them are still alive and probably still being protected by the system.

The allegations have to be investigated if we are ever going to stop this abuse.

Yes, there are other things to be investigated and questioned, and they should be. It is because these things were not investigated in the past that we are where we are today.
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Re: Ted Heath and his alleged child abuse.

Postby Suff » 05 Aug 2015, 20:35

Imagine you are being actively abused today or have recently been abused.

The person who abused you tells you that they are "connected" with the social services and the police. If you tell anyone then they will know and life will not be worth living.

Then you read in the press or see online that the police are putting up huge investigations, phone lines, ways to communicate.

All for the victims of a dead man.

And we are worried about the sensibilities of the victims and families of child molestation and sexual abuse???

Somehow those who are being abused right now would fail to take the point.
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Re: Ted Heath and his alleged child abuse.

Postby medsec222 » 06 Aug 2015, 10:43

Child abuse past and present should always be investigated. Every endeavour should be made for the truth to be unearthed. Cost should not be issue - perhaps David Cameron could divert some of the funds earmarked for overseas aid to help meet the cost.
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Re: Ted Heath and his alleged child abuse.

Postby Suff » 06 Aug 2015, 14:32

medsec222 wrote:Child abuse past and present should always be investigated. Every endeavour should be made for the truth to be unearthed. Cost should not be issue - perhaps David Cameron could divert some of the funds earmarked for overseas aid to help meet the cost.


I'd be happy to go with that, but surely those in current, ongoing, abuse are the priority?
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Re: Ted Heath and his alleged child abuse.

Postby KateLMead » 06 Aug 2015, 18:25

Workingman wrote:It is now clear that four police forces are looking into the allegations that he was another protected paedophile.

Just how many were there in parliament down the years, and are some still being protected?




Westminster "PIE" all protected.. I am sick to death of reading what those paedophiles did twenty thirty years ago and longer.,,better the damned police and social services got their finger out and jailed those perverts who have been and are abusing children TODAY, and those in government morons who are protecting them.
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Ted Heath and his alleged child abuse.

Postby debih » 06 Aug 2015, 22:52

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