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The music has almost stopped

Postby Suff » 11 Nov 2015, 20:46

And everyone is rushing to make sure they have a chair left when it does.

There are some cracking statements in this article...

If refugees are refusing to go to Luxembourg, it will be a much taller order persuading them to go to Slovakia or Estonia.


Personally I thought they were refugees, begging for somewhere to be safe. I understood that beggars could not be choosers. Apparently they can...

Orbán, gleefully denouncing liberals as clueless, sealing Hungary’s borders with razorwire and effectively abolishing the claiming of asylum, is walking tall at home because of his hardline policies. He is also increasingly winning the quiet support of other EU leaders.


Pariah to prescient.... Way to go....

Merkel, however, is increasingly lonely and embattled. Policymakers say privately that she is looking for a way to back down without losing face.


This was so obvious a conclusion from the very first idiotic "We'll take 850,000", that it was only a matter of time. What this says about the politician who could make this mistake is interesting and will make excellent grist for the mill at the next German elections....

Nor do Slovenia, Croatia or Serbia want to register them, however, for fear they will then be saddled with responsibility for the refugees.


Chair chasing..

Unfortunately, the European dream has vanished


Happens every morning. Sadly it's been a very, very, long EU night...

“Most of these leaders are lost and they’re looking to someone like Tusk to come up with a big idea,”


As far as I can see there are two leaders who are not lost in this crisis. Victor Orbán and David Cameron. Noticeably these are the two leaders who have been the most condemned and the least listened to......

More from a new EU fiasco every day now...

Perhaps now, the rest of the EU will start to wake up to the kind of immigrants who have been trying to flood into the UK. Not people seeking sanctuary. People seeking advantage though using our stable society to provide them with wealth and opportunity. At the same time denigrating that same society which gave them the opportunity and wishing for the society which catastrophically failed to nurture and support them...

Or not!
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Re: The music has almost stopped

Postby TheOstrich » 11 Nov 2015, 22:23

Yes, I saw that Guardian article - rather illuminating, isn't it?

The solution seems to be to finance a number of African leaders a few more palaces ...
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Re: The music has almost stopped

Postby cromwell » 12 Nov 2015, 08:24

The only answer is to refuse illegal immigrants entry. If they try to force entry into Europe then force has to be used. How much force?

That's up to the migrants. If they go quietly, no problem. If not, whatever happens is on their own heads. They have no right to be here.

I don't know if anyone saw a representative from the Swedish government on the BBC news last night? He was saying that Sweden "does the most" for migrants but that his country "can't take any more" and get this - "the UK must help".

Why? Sweden receives a lot of migrants because (along with Germany) it gives them the most money. Sweden is going to wreck it's welfare state and commit cultural suicide, and it's entirely down to them.

They aren't going to solve their problem by making it everyone else's problem!
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Re: The music has almost stopped

Postby Suff » 12 Nov 2015, 08:55

Yes I believe Sweden will eventually have to climb down from their position. Otherwise the Sweden Democrats are going to become the second largest party in parliament and nobody really wants that. However if the "socialist" coalitions keep on doing what they are doing, then the people are going to vote for the alternative.

Perhaps we may then see Brussels intervene in the Swedish elections like they did with Austria. Although I'd like to see that. The Swedes are rather proud of their democratic structure. If the EU were to try and override that it would not go down well....

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Interestingly Sweden is now talking about closing it's borders....

In one thing the EU is correct. They need a common EU approach to the way we deal with immigrants. The money they have free after accommodation and food needs to be roughly the same and the rules for working, repatriation of family etc also needs to be the same. Otherwise this is going to happen. What the EU is not happy about is that it will need to be level set at the lowest common denominator making the immigrants as poor as the poorest East Europeans in the EU....
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