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Re: The Calais children

Postby KateLMead » 11 May 2016, 07:29

Aggers wrote:I do admire your human kindness Kate, although the thought of how the situation might develop
if there were many people like you fills me with grave doubts as to the long-term consequences.
As it is, the number of immigrants now entering our country will cause us many problems in years
to come. This land of ours is much too small to accommodate an influx of thousands, or perhaps
millions, of refugees from Africa. It would be much better if we directed our efforts into making
their own countries a safer place to live in.



Stop the adults..As I Have said Take children.... "And I mean CHILDren" Sorry but I feel relieved that little ones are to be given some security. Stop allowing adult migrants in as I have said.
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Re: The Calais children

Postby KateLMead » 11 May 2016, 07:35

Workingman wrote:Kate, I have said this before, you are a one-off, but tell me this.

How did these pre-teens and toddlers cover 1500 km "alone and unaided"?

I do not believe that they did. They have been 'trafficked', for want of a better word, to get them to the EU. So what happens to them if they are taken in? Will they be taken in to politically correct and totally useless children's homes? Will they again, due to PC, be placed with 'moderate' Moslems already in the EU?

How can we, Europeans, guarantee that they will not become, or already are, radicalised?

If they are in contact with their parents, and they will be, we should get in contact with those parents and tell them that we are sending their children back and that in future, to stop them absconding again, they should employ effective baby sitters.


Where in Gods name will the Syrian children go Frank.. The place is a death trap?
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Re: The Calais children

Postby cromwell » 11 May 2016, 08:41

There are those in this country who want no borders. Who want the most amount of immigrants in the country that they can possibly get. That is their aim; kindness to children does not come into it.

And it is these people who will never, ever shut up about letting anybody in. They will refuse to put any effective checks to make sure these "children" are not dental checked, because that may show that this 14 year old is actually 24!

When these young men commit crime, when they rape or steal or commit violence, the yelping liberal voices will be the first people trying to hush the crime up, to play it down and to keep it completely quiet if at all possible.

These people know perfectly well that a 4 year old child has not walked 1,000 miles to Calais on their own! But they don't care. Their aim is to use mass immigration to destroy nationalism, to destroy the nation state and to destroy old fashioned Conservatism, the last of which they have already done.

You have a great heart Kate, but these liberals most certainly do not.
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Re: The Calais children

Postby Suff » 11 May 2016, 11:45

KateLM wrote:Where in Gods name will the Syrian children go Frank.. The place is a death trap?


As we have all said, over and over again. The vast majority of them are not Syrian. Dig deep enough and you finally force those trying to push this issue to admit it.

That is the whole point. They're lying their backsides off and using just a few Syrians as the tool.
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Re: The Calais children

Postby KateLMead » 12 May 2016, 20:10

I saw the programme this evening on the BBC, a little girl three or four years old desperate for medical treatment following terrible burns from her head to her feet, she needs creams for her skin..she needs help . Poor little one, Bless all the volunteers trying their best to help these poor women and children. I will say no more as I know my views are a source of irritation.
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Re: The Calais children

Postby Suff » 12 May 2016, 21:11

They're not a source of irritation Kate. But reality is this. The BBC will find 3 burned people for every 100 who are not even Syrians. Then they will guilt you into thinking that all 3,000 are burned Syrians instead of Afghans and North Africans determined to break into the UK.

Let me salve your conscience and redirect it a bit.

Of the 20,000 old, women and children we took from the camps, around 80% needed serious care and NHS attention. It's cost our health service a small fortune to get them the treatment they need and we have done it.

Those people were people stuck in the camps in Syria with no recourse to traipse all over Europe trying to get into the UK.

Nobody guilted us into taking them. We did our duty and lifted them out of hell and brought them to the UK. Thousands of children, more than are sitting in Calais at the moment.

Does the BBC tell us about all of those we saved? Not a chance. It tells us all about those the French are refusing to take in and treat because they think that we'll eventually give in and they will be dumped on us.

I have this knowledge of those from Syria direct from the NHS itself.

Can you imagine my anger at what the BBC and press and NGO's are doing about those in Calais? Why aren't they hammering the French for leaving them in deplorable conditions? Conditions they would not allow any EU citizen to be in. In fact they would not even allow an EU citizien (child), to be there at all, they'd be in care.

It is not you and your attitudes that irritate me Kate. You are a kind, warm and caring person who feels for those who need care.

I am incandescently angry at those who are trying to use that kindness and caring to overwhelm the laws and common sense of the UK.

You don't irritate me at all.... I feel for the way you feel. Where is my hugging smiley when I need it. I just don't share the way you feel because I already know that others are using that humanity to abuse the UK and I care far too much for my own country to allow them to do it. Those people have put those children in this place and are totally responsible for it. I can't take that responsibility and damage our own in the process. I won't. It's not easy but it is necessary.
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Re: The Calais children

Postby cromwell » 13 May 2016, 13:09

This is probably the closest to how I feel about immigration. It's written by an american author called Lionel Shriver. She is not a mad racist or xenophobe, she is a realist.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/culture/ ... ames-kidd/

The section on immigration is about half way down. This is the truest bit.

"I think Europe by the mid-century is going to have received hundreds of millions from Africa and the Middle East. Hundreds of millions,” she repeats. “Unless Europe is willing to defend its borders with guns, which it never will, then they are going to come in.”

There it is. Use force to keep the millions out, because nothing else is going to work. But with the knock-kneed virtue signallers that comprise the European political class, will it ever happen?
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Re: The Calais children

Postby Suff » 13 May 2016, 14:01

She also talked about the other elephant in the room.

“I am not paranoid that Muslims are going to take over the world. In democracies, mass immigration is also political takeover. It just is. If we are talking about a highly Islamicised Europe, that potentially changes the law.”


I have the skills, work structure and income to escape all of this and go wherever I want in the world to avoid it.

I shouldn't care so much. But that has always been my problem.
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Re: The Calais children

Postby Workingman » 13 May 2016, 15:23

I saw her on TV the other day and somebody didn't read her CV. It sounded as if they were expecting a cuddly toy, but what they got was a bulldog.

She doesn't like Trump, or Democrats, or Clinton, or Obama, or Republicans. She is against LGBT agendas in the media, against abortions for "cosmetic" reasons, against uncontrolled immigration, against multi-culturalism, but also against ghettos. She does not like banks, big business, social media.....

She's a bit of a Maverick. ;) :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Calais children

Postby Suff » 13 May 2016, 15:56

Workingman wrote:She's a bit of a Maverick. ;) :lol: :lol:


Must have really thrown them when she was being interviewed then... :-)

We need some Mavericks...
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