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Re: Venables Unmasked?

Postby Oojamaflip » 18 Feb 2013, 13:35

Kaz wrote:If people are allowed to look at such stuff (god ony knows what they get out of it, I certainly don't want to know!) then they are creating a market and people will exploit children to fill it................. :evil: :(

Makes me feel ill just talking about it TBH :(



What comes first: the chicken or the egg? Certain people have certain desires, so others exploit that desire. Which one creates the market? They're as bad as each other, and as you say Kaz, it makes one sick to the stomach.

We can never say it's illegal to see an image, but we can make it illegal to create the image (in fact, it IS illegal to create pornography depicting children), and further, we can make it illegal to actively search out such images.
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Re: Venables Unmasked?

Postby Workingman » 18 Feb 2013, 18:33

Oojamaflip wrote:What comes first: the chicken or the egg?

The eternal question.

My take is that these people will do what they do, and record it, regardless of the wider audience. The voyeurs, for that is what they are, might get off on it but many, probably most, would never do it. Both sets are reprehensible and dangerous, but in different ways.

I do, however, agree with Ped's observation that viewing does not always turn the viewer into a doer.
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Re: Venables Unmasked?

Postby miasmum » 18 Feb 2013, 20:44

but why would anyone want to?
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Re: Venables Unmasked?

Postby shazsha » 18 Feb 2013, 21:27

Workingman wrote:
Oojamaflip wrote:What comes first: the chicken or the egg?

The eternal question.

My take is that these people will do what they do, and record it, regardless of the wider audience. The voyeurs, for that is what they are, might get off on it but many, probably most, would never do it. Both sets are reprehensible and dangerous, but in different ways.

I do, however, agree with Ped's observation that viewing does not always turn the viewer into a doer.


Viewing may not turn them into a doer but some innocent child still has to be hurt for them to be able to view! Viewing isn't a victimless crime.
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Re: Venables Unmasked?

Postby Kaz » 18 Feb 2013, 21:33

Absolutely! :x :(
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Re: Venables Unmasked?

Postby Workingman » 18 Feb 2013, 22:43

Shaz wrote:Viewing may not turn them into a doer but some innocent child still has to be hurt for them to be able to view! Viewing isn't a victimless crime.


I absolutely agree with that, but please do confuse the significance of the two.

Those who commit these crimes will do so regardless of the punishments that they might receive. Those that view them are thrill seekers, and cowards.

They should all be hung, drawn and quartered, but that's just my opinion.
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Re: Venables Unmasked?

Postby Kaz » 19 Feb 2013, 08:55

Not only your opinion Frank :x x
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