The conwoman is at it again.

[miasmum]

I want to vote for a party, so I guess I need to peruse Wiki

[Suff]

Election results by constituency 2015 will get you what you want form google.. Putting in your constituency also helps to get right there.

You can also see the history and how the votes have changed.

[jenniren]

Jen I wasn't sure what you meant about Corbyn openly sympathising with murderers so I googled and I presume you mean his dealings with Jahjah? My thoughts on this are, but your daughter and her husband were happy to vote for Blair? How many of our own did he send to their deaths? No give me Corbyn any day. Obviously if I have misunderstood, which I probably have, I'm not very clever, I apologise and perhaps you would explain?

You are clever shell, I obviously didn't explain myself clearly. I was referring to Corbyn's friendship and support for the IRA. Murderers like Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams who planned and were instrumental in the deaths of ordinary people here and in Northern Ireland. I applaud those who forgave, but forgiveness is completely different from actual support. Anyone able to excuse such awful atrocities will always be contemptible in my eyes.

Yes you're right, Z&M did vote for Blair, but in fairness to them they couldn't have known he would lead us into an unnecessary war. Even I who was never a fan couldn't have guessed he would lie over such a huge issue. I'd like to see him prosecuted and put in prison where he belongs.

If you believe that putting the problem back in power, which I believe will make the whole thing even worse, will make it better, then that is what you believe. Me? I believe that if we put Labour anywhere near the NHS, privatisation is absolutely guaranteed in my lifetime.

Spot on Suff, exactly my thoughts.

[miasmum]

Ok, thank you. I have my own feelings about the politics in Northern Ireland which I have discussed at length with my friend who did Irish Politics at Uni, so I feel knows far far more than I ever will, but it reassures me that she agrees with me.

[Workingman]

With regards to Labour and times past ... not including that damned war.

We cannot continue to moan about the policies they implemented when running the country. We have had seven years of Tory led governments, plenty of time to undo or amend what Labour did, but little has happened. That is either because the Tories do not see them as so bad or because they are totally disinterested.

The Tories will win the next election, no doubt about that, so we will get another five years of Tory rule. They will be tied up with Brexit and its aftermath for at least three years so I expect more inaction, except for attacks on the easy targets. Then we will probably get another five years and possibly Tory rule well into the 2030s.

None of this will be good for the country or for our version democracy. We need a strong opposition and the only party with the resources to provide it is Labour - sans Corbyn - and then probably only in coalition with the LibDems. It is a frightening prospect.

If the clock could be turned back and if I had a vote then I would have gone for Liz Kendall as Labour leader. If the vote was today I think that I would pick Rachel Reeves.

[Suff]

We have had seven years of Tory led governments, plenty of time to undo or amend what Labour did, but little has happened.

In fact we've had 5 years of a Con-Lib Coalition where the Lib Dems vetoed everything they didn't like or just on principle if they didn't win things they wanted. We've had 2 years of a Tory government which has been totally dominated by Brexit and the last 6 months have been nothing else.

What May would do, if re-elected for 5 years, is unlikely to bear any relationship to what has gone on over the last 7 years.

So whilst we are forgetting everything Labour destroyed in the Blair Brown years, we might as well forget everything that has happened in the last 7 years.

[Workingman]

I mentioned moaning about the policies of the Labour, the straw man of forgetting everything never cropped up.

What I was pointing out is that the Tories have led governments over seven years and not done a thing about Labour's mess. It is true.

As for the LibDems vetoing everything.... erm, the Tories are squeaky clean, eh? AV instead of PR. Tuition fees. They were as bad as each other with all their horse trading instead of running the country. Go look it up.

[AliasAggers]

The Tories will win the next election, no doubt about that, so we will get another five years of Tory rule.

I'm not so sure. Personally I hope Labour does get in, as long as it is not headed by some prat like Blair.

What this country needs is a strong, old fashioned, Labour Government, to hammer the 'fat cats', and to
nationalise the essential public services, such as water and electricity supplies. I'm sure they would also
do the right thing regarding the NHS.

[Workingman]

Aggers, my personal opinion is that whoever wins the election, almost certainly the Tories, will spend at least three years, possibly four, mainly dealing with Brexit and the aftermath. The pressing issues for the UK will be put on the back burner to a large extent.

This could allow opposition parties to regroup and become possible alternatives for the 2022 election, even in coalition, but only if they are willing to pick up the baton. Labour would almost certainly have to ditch Corbyn and the same might be true of the LibDems and Farron for things to work. The $64 question is: Will they?

[TheOstrich]

Indeed. Lot of water to go under the bridge before 2022.

However, when we get there, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see a repeat of 1945 - the incumbents, who have steered the ship through a tricky navigational passage of Brexit (vice Churchill; WW2), ditched in favour of a radical opposition (vice Labour; Attlee; NHS foundation etc.).