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Re: Looking through the spin.

Postby Suff » 28 Jul 2017, 11:11

medsec222 wrote:Perhaps it is lurid headlines once again, but Brussels are saying no talks on trade deal until the UK prove they are willing to pay their divorce bill. This is blackmail and another good reason why the UK should leave this self serving money grabbing EU machine.


Yeah meds but what bill? They won't tell us what the bill is. They refuse to talk trade until we give them carte blanche to give us a total shafting.

Not only do the UK team have a clue, they are sharp enough to realise that you don't cover the ball in kisses and £20 notes then let the EU run away with it without a word on what they will do with it.

The remainer press will become more and more strident as the F.U. stance of the UK on an unspecified and unquantified "liability" to the EU remains uncommitted.

Let them howl I say. Eventually, when it all comes out in the wash, the EU is going to look very, very bad indeed.

If anyone who thinks that the UK is negotiating badly had read the IMF transcripts of the PIIGS bailouts, they would know exactly what poor, clueless, negotiations were about.

For clarity, there is being IN the EU and being OUT Of the EU. Anything else is just a cludge designed to benefit the EU at astronomical cost to the UK in both finances and sovereignty.

OUT is OUT, trade deals come after. OUT does not come with a price of being IN.

Our negotiators are doing exactly what we told them to do. Getting us OUT of the EU with a whole skin.

It is very worthwhile reading the press outside of the remoaner bubble about what the consequences to the EU are of a F.U. exit by the UK.

Handlesblatt

With a very interesting comment.

Mr. Schweitzer warned that customs duties would cost the British economy €12 billion.


Really, but the Brexit bill is going to cost us €100bn. A good deal then, no deal, not?

Spectator

For the moment, the EU’s negotiating team tries to avoid the issue of trade by refusing even to address it until the terms of Britain’s withdrawal — by which it means the size of our bill — have been agreed. This is an unreasonable and unsustainable position to hold.


Reading the other bits about trade openness and how the UK's exit will destabilise a very finely balanced stand off in the EU is worth it too. Also the relative numbers of jobs reliant on trade in each direction.

Express on Irish cross UK trade

If anyone in the EU thinks that browbeating the UK into exiting with no deal and closed borders, it is only the political elite and not the businesses of the EU. This, in the next few months, will start to raise a clamour which can't be denied. Barnier is going to be put under a microscope the way that the UK team has been from day 1.

How will he look? What Brexit bill? Where is the plan? What are their demands, apart form "capitulate now"? Has anyone, anywhere, seen a copy of the EU Brexit roadmap? What it contains? What the EU demands are?

There is this constant refrain form the remoaners about how the UK is in a shambles. OK here's a challenge. Show me the EU counterpart and tell me how the UK does not measure up!
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