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Postby Workingman » 10 Dec 2017, 13:04

That is how California Governor, Jerry Brown, has described the ongoing wildfires. They are said to have cost agriculture '$billions and $billions' and could become the norm every year or every other year.

Welcome to planet Earth in the 21st century, Jerry.

Unfortunately there are plenty of 'new normals' in the pipeline - floods, droughts. hurricanes/cyclones, monsoons/no monsoons, wildfires, sea rises - depending on where you live.

Earth 2027 is going to be a very different place from Earth 2017, that is how quickly these new normals are going to take to establish themselves.

Biscuit anyone?
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Re: The new normal.

Postby Suff » 10 Dec 2017, 23:27

Workingman wrote:Biscuit anyone?


Only with a cuppa.

It is interesting how they can just trot out the "new normal" without any statement about what needs to be done to even begin to resolve or rectify it.
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Re: The new normal.

Postby AliasAggers » 12 Dec 2017, 20:35

Suff wrote: It is interesting how they can just trot out the "new normal" without any
statement about what needs to be done to even begin to resolve or rectify it.


That is because, even if what needs to be done were announced, not enough
people by far would be prepared to take the necessary actions. We just have
to accept that this period of mankind's occupation of Planet Earth is drawing
to its close. What will happen on this planet, after that happens, is anyone's
guess.
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Re: The new normal.

Postby Suff » 12 Dec 2017, 20:51

Not so sure about that Aggers. When we finally got outside the atmosphere of the planet it was pristine. Meaning, probably, that we're the first species on this planet to have made it into space.

Making it into space means we are no longer a single planet species and, no matter how difficult it may be, we can survive off the planet.

Pity about those left behind though.
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Re: The new normal.

Postby Workingman » 12 Dec 2017, 21:45

With the way things are going I expect to see outposts on the Moon and maybe even on Mars in my lifetime. They will be small scale, but a start, a bit like the International Space Station. However, they will only be peopled by highly skilled scientists, engineers and technicians kept alive with provisions brought in by shuttle missions for a long time into the future. It will be long time after that before they become self-sufficient and able to grow of their own accord.

They will happen, though, and from small acorns........
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Re: The new normal.

Postby AliasAggers » 12 Dec 2017, 23:32

Obviously you are both more optimistic than I am. :roll:
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Re: The new normal.

Postby Suff » 13 Dec 2017, 08:50

I worked in REME in the Army. We had a saying in REME, we were like manure, spread us around and we did an incredible amount of good, stick us in a heap and we stunk. I worked in very large REME establishments and also in smaller workshops for other regiments. I found that to be very true, REME was total BS in large amounts but extremely beneficial where we just got on with the job of fixing stuff. The regiments who we fixed stuff for were very appreciative and gave us a lot of leeway our own Regiment would not.

I've found the Human Race to be similar. Scientists, engineers, the people who drive us constantly onwards, tend to be extremely beneficial. Those who do the day to day grind? Can't see beyond the end of their nose unless they have an interest. As for politicians? The backbone of the manure heap, so deep in the dung they'll never smell clean and only interested in getting everyone in the heap so they can be as dirty and smell as bad, as themselves.

We shall, in the end, reap what we sow.

However as WM also says. The human race has evolved beyond the point where it needs to rely solely on the masses. The masses are actually a throwback to the 19th/20th century and before. The race will survive now, unless we immolate ourselves in Nuclear fire in the next 50 years. Which I don't see happening.
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Re: The new normal.

Postby Workingman » 13 Dec 2017, 15:13

Aggers wrote:Obviously you are both more optimistic than I am. :roll:


I am not so sure Aggers. For me, personally, I am only optimistic for about 0.00001% of us, if that. They are the types I mentioned in my earlier post.

The rest of us will be trying to survive in any way we can in the poisonous biosphere we will have created. It really will be Hell on Earth for those trying to eke out an existence, and in the present day the ones most likely to succeed are the bushmen, the aboriginals and the nomads.

What does the Bible say? "The meek shall inherit the Earth" or what is left of it.
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Re: The new normal.

Postby Suff » 13 Dec 2017, 15:46

Interestingly the rainforest central belt are going to be the most viable biosphere's left on the planet. Well in the short term. Currently inaccessible north and south latitudes will be more viable in the centuries to come.

It is the wars that will be the problem and the bush in Africa and the Amazon will be the least impacted by those too.

As for the meek inheriting the earth? Those tribes exhibit the very worst of human nature. Ritualised aggression, tribal war, ritualised murder and even cannibalism.

Just the "meek" we need to start us all over again........... On exactly the same path.
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Re: The new normal.

Postby Workingman » 13 Dec 2017, 18:17

Suff wrote:As for the meek inheriting the earth? Those tribes exhibit the very worst of human nature. Ritualised aggression, tribal war, ritualised murder and even cannibalism.

A bit of a generalisation, but, yes, some of them might not be the most civilised people you would want to meet.

I was thinking more of their ability to survive in the wasteland and would put any of their tribes up against the cast of Cats, the London Civil Service, the Anglican Synod and/or any collection of politicians from anywhere anybody cares to mention.
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