Two minutes.

[Workingman]

That is all it took for the EU 27 to formalise their stance on Brexit Phase II negotiations, and that included a reminder to the UK that there were still loose ends from Phase I to clear up.

So much for the demands made of them by Davis in the last week.

We are on a hiding to nothing, yet self-flagellation seems to be the order of the day.

[TheOstrich]

Very true. You have 21 months and during that, you pay your whack and abide by our rules.

Well, I for one don't mind waiting a bit longer for Freedom Day.

As President Trump said, the EU ain't all it's cracked up to be, and his negotiation technique would have been "different". I'd rather have had him negotiating for us than Theresa May and the current shower .....

[Workingman]

I voted Remain, but having accepted the result I am coming round to the idea that another few years of waiting should not be such a big deal for Brexiters.

We are told it is the best thing since sliced bread so we may as well get the butter up to room temp. Nothing's more difficult that spreading cold butter on fresh sliced bread.

[Suff]

I've never had an issue with any sensible measure to smooth the transition. However of it is not sensible, then we must be prepared to walk away with nothing and make our own way, no matter how difficult that is.

However, also these sensible measures must not be a path for remainders to overturn the will of the people.

[AliasAggers]

As President Trump said, the EU ain't all it's cracked up to be, and his negotiation technique would have been "different".
I'd rather have had him negotiating for us than Theresa May and the current shower .....

So would I. In fact,If I had been given the job it would have been all over by now.
I would just have said, " We are leaving, Goodbye" .

[Workingman]

I would just have said, " We are leaving, Goodbye" .

That is fine, but we would still have to extract ourselves from the EU, and that would take time.

Isn't that why we are trying to negotiate a transition, sorry, implementation period? The problem is that we (the government) do not seem to know what we want or how to negotiate it.

[AliasAggers]

The trouble is that there are many MPs who want to go against the decision, made
by the majority of voters, to leave the E.U., and are doing their best to prevent it.

[Suff]

The problem is that we (the government) do not seem to know what we want or how to negotiate it.

Oh they know what they want and they know how to negotiate it. However having parties hostile to Brexit and MP's in their own party hostile to Brexit is causing a major headache. In short those serving their own self interest of Remain are betraying our country and it's interests in order to try and appease the EU. Ably assisted by about 66% of the press, the CBI, and many other organisations.

I'd say that the Government could just go it alone and declare unilateral Brexit and walk away. However this would be vetoed in Parliament and we'd be dragged through the mire on some self serving whim of a hope that they'll derail Brexit and the nightmare will just go away.

The irony?? When it comes to the 11th hour and the Remainers try to force the UK to, well, remain, even after triggering Article 50.... I fully believe that interests in the EU will simply push us out the door. Because once they have done that, we'd have to apply to come back. That means Schengen, the Euro, our rebate removed and a whole host of other opt out's we have negotiated going down the tubes....

As far as I can work out, most Remainers don't want that.

If they actually achieve it, I'll be laughing at them for a decade. I'll be rubbing their faces in it for a decade. And you know what. I'll enjoy it because I will be the net beneficiary of that lunacy and I won't have been responsible for selling my country down the river.....

[Workingman]

Oh, silly me, I forgot it is all the fault of Remainers.

It's the fault of Remainers that the unnecessary referendum was called.

It's the fault of Remainers that the Cameron did a runner when the reuslt was known.

It's the fault of Remainers that May was coronated as PM.

It's the fault of Remainers that the new PM called an opportunistic general election.

It's the fault of Remainers that the new PM lost her majority.

It's the fault of Remainers that the new PM had to bribe the DUP to support her 'strong and stable' minority government.

It's the fault of Remainers that the governemt had no plan when A50 was enacted.

It's the fault of Remainers that the governemen did not do any impact assessment or did do them or cannot remember if any were done or did not read them if they were done.

It's the fault of Remainers that the EU has stuck to its guns.

It's the fault of Remainers that the EU did plenty of impact assessments, and published them.

It's the fault of Remainers that the vastly majority pro Brexit press is not happy with the way the government is handling things.

And lastly, it's the fault of Remainers that Leavers will not take ownership of what they have created, not one iota.

Next up: It's the fault of Remainers that the Sun rises in the East and that water is wet.

[Suff]

It is absolutely the fault of the remainers, who are not willing to abide by the will of the people, that they are totally determined to overrule the will of the people and get what they want.

I don't care about anything else. They create the confusion. They create the weakness. They are making Brexit a nightmare to deliver (which is what they want).

Then we ALL have to live with what they are trying to do. As opposed to them living with that the majority of the people of the UK, who voted, have instructed the government to do.

Clearly those kind of remainers don't like democracy and are only concerned with self interest...

So I'm not the slightest bit interested in whether people think that Brexit is a dogs breakfast or not. I'm certainly not interested in a single word about how united the EU is and how divided the UK is. That has ALWAYS been the way.

But, every time I point this out, I'm subject to an assumption that I blame EVERYTHING on Remainers.

I don't. I blame those who wanted to remain and are willing to do everything they can (including selling our country down the river), to get what they want.

What I'm pointing out is what they are doing, what the impact of that is and, in the final analysis, why I will always have the last laugh. If they get what they want the price will be higher than Brexit. I'll laugh even louder and more hysterically at that....