Liars, cheats and lawbreakers.

[Suff]

I thought that we had one law for all.

We certainly do.

Now if we're going to try and derail Brexit by doing a report on the legality of the claims and spending from Leave, then we should carry out the SAME report on the Remain campaign. When doing that, they would need to investigate every single Remain member who visited business and got them to expend money on Remain campaigning, whether direct or indirect.

Let us, for sure, be completely even handed about it. 100 times more money was spent to Remain than was spent on Leave. It just didn't make it into the hands of the Remain group itself. It did not need to.

People like to talk about Russia interfering in Brexit. What about ALL those foreign funded firms who took out massive advertisements about the Armageddon simply voting Leave would bring down on them the day after the decision.

Oh but let us not look under that stone. We have a _report_ by the Electoral Commission triggered by the losers because they think they can change the vote in another way.

This is nothing more than another attempt by the establishment to override the will of the people.

Don't try and dress it up in any other way.

Lies? We said at the time that Everyone was lying. I'm sure that not Everyone has forgotten that the lies of Remain turned up, mainly, day 1 after the vote. Cameron was the first to go. In the weeks that followed, most of the other lies failed to turn up. In fact, when the BOE intervened, fuelled by the lies, we suffered a totally un needed boom.


You want to talk about the bus with £360m on it? I revisited the figures recently. I'd forgotten that we're paying them £39bn to leave. Add to that the€13bn per year, for 7 years that they are losing and we're looking at around £320M per week of funds not going to Brexit, every year, once we get the £39bn over with.

So who was lying to whom? The EU costs a LOT Of money to administrate in the UK. £30m a week? Quite possibly. Just remember that you can’t challenge the €13n a year any more, it is now written into the EU budget documents as the amount the UK pay, every year. As I recall Remain had it as around €4.7bn.

Until the remain campaign is subjected to Exactly the same scrutiny as the Leave campaign, on funding, Truth and Integrity, I will reserve the right to believe that this is a last ditch attempt by the establishment to refuse the will of the people.

Fortunately, A50 is an EU construct, not a UK construct. If that is not immediately obvious, it might bear some thinking about..

[AliasAggers]

I have no idea if anything underhanded has taken place either with the Leave campaign or Remain campaign.
I have a strong feeling it has not influenced the average voter one bit, despite the background noises from both sides.

That's what I think, too.

[Workingman]

I will try to keep this short and simple.

The Electoral Commission investigated the official Leave campaign and found it broke the law.

That is it. Nothing else: "Broke.The. Law.".

[Kaz]

^^This! What part of "Broke the law" are people not getting!

[Suff]

Oh, right.

So, which part of broke the law during elections is not understood.

Of course this never happens any other time, it was just those corrupt Leave.EU campaigners who were obviously illegal because they wanted to do something the UK Government and UK businesses did not want them to do. Oh and the other 27 EU states didn't want that either.

I note that the Remain campaign is also being investigated for "Breaking the Law" during that referendum too.

Which part of that don't the Remain press understand???

I could just as well contend that because the Remain campaign stand accused of breaking Electoral Law by not putting in their paperwork for donations and campaign spending, that we should not listen to a word they say either.

Where does that leave us?

Leaving the EU.

Time to get over it.

[Workingman]

More white noise and straw man links that have nothing to do with the issue.

Vote.Leave "broke the law" in order to "win" the referendum.

Had Remain "won" under similar circumstances we all know that Brexiteers would just shrug their shoulders, sit down with a lovely cuppa and a cucumber sandwich, and turn to the bowls and cricket scores.

Or maybe not.

[Suff]

Vote.Leave "broke the law" in order to "win" the referendum.

It is beginning to look like the Remain side did too. It is just that Leave got the first investigation through.

Yawn.

[Kaz]

Yes, sticking to the law when it doesn't suit must be so boring!

[Suff]

I did post all the investigations of the EC and the fact that, even for professional political parties, actually sticking to the letter of the law and running a campaign was pretty damned difficult.

But let's not let the reality of UK campaign law get in the way of a good reason to doubt the result of the referendum.

Nobody is clean on this because if you are 100% clean to the UK electoral rules; you lose. Which is why ALL the parties are investigated over and over again.

People speed, people drive with a drink, people drive with drugs. People trespass, people break the laws every single day, even if they just walk over a pedestrian crossing on red.

The Tories overspent by £7m in 2015, they got a £70,000 fine. Life and death stuff that.

But always a good excuse for another reason to have a go at Brexit.

[Kaz]

Yes, because it's all about point scoring, and wanting to be right! NO! It's about making sure that something as hugely far-reaching for our country, and the future of our children, has been done legally and fairly. Why would anyone have a problem with that?

We are leaping off a cliff - what would we rather have at the bottom waiting for us, mattresses or spikes!