This is going to be my absolute last word on Brexit on here. Even the Government think it's going to be a disaster! You'll be glad to be living in France Suff, despite it being in your "much hated" EU! Shame about the rest of us......
I'll just leave this here......
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Change in tactics?
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Re: Change in tactics?
by Kaz » 25 Jul 2018, 17:37
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Re: Change in tactics?
by Suff » 25 Jul 2018, 18:36
Kaz, I know you don't want to discuss this any more but just two observations.
I never said I "hate" the EU. Undemocratic, totalitarian, bunch of lying wasters. Yep, all of that. About the norm for a bunch of politicians today. However the EU works for France. France can get virtually anything it wants and won't have to pay for it.
What I hate is what the EU is doing to the UK. That is an entirely different matter.
As for that article and what May is doing right now? I just laughed and laughed and laughed.
Medicines. Let us see what the APBI says about it, NOT the press.
We already import a disproportionately large volume of medicines from outside the EU. Over and above what we manufacture ourselves. We import pharma goods, remanufacture them and sell them onto the EU. We import a large volume of medicines from outside the EU for our own use.
The agreements are already in place. All we need to do is expand them, in the short term, until manufacturing relocates to the UK or a trade deal is done.
What, manufacturing relocating to the UK. Never going to happen! Well not until you realise the UK is the 5th largest economy in the world and that if they don't then the goods are going to be sucked in from the third world at a much lower cost.
As for food? Don't be daft, trucks take 3-5 days to come from southern Spain and Italy, ships take 7 days to come from America and 10 days to come from Central America and 7 days to come from West Africa. Even Australia is only 40 days. The only reason we'll have any food shortages is if we don't order in time. It only takes a month, in total, to shift our entire food sourcing from the EU to the rest of the world. We could do it in January with time to spare.
The next part is a real killer. Without the 35% tariffs, put on these goods by the EU, they would be cheaper than buying them in Spain and Italy and Holland and Poland.
I am tired, bored, wearied, with the whole argument Remain put up in the press as to the fact that we'll run out of food and medicines.
A little more digging and I find an article talking about the supply chain issues within the EU already.
Why do we have these supply failures? Well if you read the EU initiative on getting supply of medicines from the Global Market. You find that the EU have a regulation
Where we can
In short, if we have a shortage of medicines we can't buy back any of the medicines we sold to 3rd world countries on the cheap. Because it would reduce the price of EU medicines and that would be bad. So, in the worst case, if we oversupply 3rd world countries with cheap medicines, then have a shortage at home, in the worst case, people die.
Why do they die? Because it is more important for people to die than it is for the cost of medicines manufactured in the EU to have a reduced cost. Because that would reduce our standard of living... Or, in some cases, remove our living....
Talking to me about the supply of medicines failing in the UK is a bit like lighting the blue touch paper.
As with everything Remain does to try and, well, remain, it is a tissue of fact bundled within lies and layered with deceit. A bit like Subprime mortgages repackaged and sold at 100 times their real value...
Hopefully we won't fall for it.
I never said I "hate" the EU. Undemocratic, totalitarian, bunch of lying wasters. Yep, all of that. About the norm for a bunch of politicians today. However the EU works for France. France can get virtually anything it wants and won't have to pay for it.
What I hate is what the EU is doing to the UK. That is an entirely different matter.
As for that article and what May is doing right now? I just laughed and laughed and laughed.
Medicines. Let us see what the APBI says about it, NOT the press.
Medicines supply in the UK and EU27 / EEA
The report finds that changes to trade and the medicines supply chain as a result of Brexit could contribute to an increased frequency of medicines shortages in the EU27 / EEA and the UK. A recent survey by the European Federation of Pharmaceutical Industries and Associations has found that 45 million packs of medicine go from the UK to the EU27 / EEA each month – with over 37 million packs coming back the other way[10].
For the EU27 / EEA, the impact of the UK becoming a 'third country' would be felt the most on vaccines and advanced therapies that use human blood/plasma, as these products are disproportionately manufactured or imported via the UK[11]. These impacts are likely to be particularly acute during any implementation period where pharmaceutical companies have to duplicate or relocate batch release testing (a critical part of Good Manufacturing Practice (GMP) and a final safety check that pharmaceutical manufacturers must perform before a medicine is released for use).
The report also demonstrates risk relating to delays in the supply of medicines coming from outside the EU. The UK has the highest number of sites certified to import pharmaceuticals from 'third countries', ahead of Germany[12]. Currently, pharmaceutical products from 'third countries' certified at sites in the UK can be readily dispatched to the EU27/EEA freely through the single market and customs union.
The analysis concludes that in a Brexit scenario where the UK and the EU fail to reach a trade agreement on pharmaceuticals, medicines will be subject to tariff and non-tariff measures that could increase administrative burden, cause customs delays and increase costs.
We already import a disproportionately large volume of medicines from outside the EU. Over and above what we manufacture ourselves. We import pharma goods, remanufacture them and sell them onto the EU. We import a large volume of medicines from outside the EU for our own use.
The agreements are already in place. All we need to do is expand them, in the short term, until manufacturing relocates to the UK or a trade deal is done.
What, manufacturing relocating to the UK. Never going to happen! Well not until you realise the UK is the 5th largest economy in the world and that if they don't then the goods are going to be sucked in from the third world at a much lower cost.
As for food? Don't be daft, trucks take 3-5 days to come from southern Spain and Italy, ships take 7 days to come from America and 10 days to come from Central America and 7 days to come from West Africa. Even Australia is only 40 days. The only reason we'll have any food shortages is if we don't order in time. It only takes a month, in total, to shift our entire food sourcing from the EU to the rest of the world. We could do it in January with time to spare.
The next part is a real killer. Without the 35% tariffs, put on these goods by the EU, they would be cheaper than buying them in Spain and Italy and Holland and Poland.
I am tired, bored, wearied, with the whole argument Remain put up in the press as to the fact that we'll run out of food and medicines.
A little more digging and I find an article talking about the supply chain issues within the EU already.
just in the UK over 1 million branded medicine supply failures occur each year
Why do we have these supply failures? Well if you read the EU initiative on getting supply of medicines from the Global Market. You find that the EU have a regulation
Council Regulation 953/2003 to avoid trade diversion into the EU of certain key medicines
Where we can
Enables pharmaceutical companies to sell essential medicines to less developed countries and prevents their re-importation
In short, if we have a shortage of medicines we can't buy back any of the medicines we sold to 3rd world countries on the cheap. Because it would reduce the price of EU medicines and that would be bad. So, in the worst case, if we oversupply 3rd world countries with cheap medicines, then have a shortage at home, in the worst case, people die.
Why do they die? Because it is more important for people to die than it is for the cost of medicines manufactured in the EU to have a reduced cost. Because that would reduce our standard of living... Or, in some cases, remove our living....
Talking to me about the supply of medicines failing in the UK is a bit like lighting the blue touch paper.
As with everything Remain does to try and, well, remain, it is a tissue of fact bundled within lies and layered with deceit. A bit like Subprime mortgages repackaged and sold at 100 times their real value...
Hopefully we won't fall for it.
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Those who understand Binary and those who do not.
Those who understand Binary and those who do not.
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