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Postby Suff » 25 Sep 2018, 11:51

Will be frothing at the mouth again.. As Total makes a Major gas discovery off coast of Scotland

We were, of course, assured that this was not going to happen and that the NS gas fields were going to run out in 10 years and that our energy security would be reliant on Russia unless we engaged in extensive Fracking...

Just another lie to add to the pile created during the referendum.

Still, it is good for the UK as a whole post Brexit...

My next question is... How many more of these are waiting to be "discovered"??
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Postby Workingman » 25 Sep 2018, 14:27

Suff wrote:My next question is... How many more of these are waiting to be "discovered"??

Nobody knows, that is why they are prospecting. ;)

However, the area east of Shetland does seem to be a promising place to be looking.
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Postby Suff » 25 Sep 2018, 15:35

No that is not the point. We were told CATEGORICALLY that the ENTIRE area had been surveyed and that it was a matter of diminishing returns with EXTENSIVE expense required to retrieve the additional resources.

Exactly the opposite of the situation we see today.

Hence some very disgruntled Scottish Nationalists.

Be very glad that at least 50% of Nationalists want even less to do with the EU than they want to do with the UK.
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Postby cromwell » 26 Sep 2018, 08:05

I don't understand. Why would they be upset?
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Postby AliasAggers » 26 Sep 2018, 11:13

I can't understand just what is going on.
It is obvious that us humans are rapidly using up the Earth's resources, but no-one seems to realise that we should be doing something about it.
Instead all we can think about is more cars, more planes, more ships, etc., etc. - everything that will help to exhaust the Earth's resources and,
in the process, help to permanently contaminate the environment. God help future generations.
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Postby TheOstrich » 26 Sep 2018, 22:02

cromwell wrote:I don't understand. Why would they be upset?


I assume because during the referendum, the "No" campaign majored a fair old bit on the fact there was no (or very little) oil / natural resources left out there, so financially Scotland would go to hell in a handcart very rapidly if they did vote to separate, as the rest of the UK would be under no obligation to continue subsidising them. The Scot Nats were going to claim those dwindling resources in their territorial waters as their own, but it was being argued that they'd not even be allowed to do that, IIRC.

I'm not privy to all the arguments and mutterings in the halls of the Clans :) , but presumably it was a bit of a game-changer.

A bit like Project Fear and Brexit, in a way, although the majority of EU referendum voters ignored the prophets of doom. And nothing so far has justified all that fearmongering, anyway, (and with my rose-tinted glasses on, hopefully nothing will).
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Postby TheOstrich » 26 Sep 2018, 22:12

AliasAggers wrote:I can't understand just what is going on.
It is obvious that us humans are rapidly using up the Earth's resources, but no-one seems to realise that we should be doing something about it.
Instead all we can think about is more cars, more planes, more ships, etc., etc. - everything that will help to exhaust the Earth's resources and,
in the process, help to permanently contaminate the environment. God help future generations.


Not to worry too much, Aggers, if that nice Mr. Corbyn gets in, judging by today's speech, you'll have a compulsory solar panel on your roof, and probably a windmill on your balcony!

Our Solar Thermal system (a single panel) which provides hot water probably saves us about £100 or so a year off the gas bill, as long as we get decent sunshine. I shaln't tell you what it cost to install, though! :D
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Postby Workingman » 26 Sep 2018, 22:31

Project Fear and Brexit and fearmongering? Do give it a rest.

This find might give jus a few years till 2020, then it will be gone. These deposits were laid down before humanity existed, they did not just materialise in 2010, 2016, 2017, or whenever.

Let the Brexiteer straw clutching begin.
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Postby Suff » 27 Sep 2018, 08:17

Workingman wrote:Project Fear and Brexit and fearmongering? Do give it a rest.

This find might give jus a few years till 2020, then it will be gone. These deposits were laid down before humanity existed, they did not just materialise in 2010, 2016, 2017, or whenever.

Let the Brexiteer straw clutching begin.


No this has nothing to do with Brexit except in the views of Scottish independence voters. The only link to Brexit is that those who don't want to lose Scotland to another independence referendum can thank god for Brexit. Because if the UK were still in the EU, right now, those voters would be tearing the doors of Holyrood down to get a second independence referendum and holding up this "discovery" as prima facie evidence that the No camp lied their asses off.

This is Scottish local politics on which Brexit is having a large impact.

Brexit, for Sturgeon, is a total disaster in more ways than one.
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